Jerry Schumacher’s not racing

macdaddy wrote:

under a bridge wrote:

To your credit, you're only off by a factor of three.

Weird use of factor - especially when comparing it to the #1. Nonetheless, please go ahead and list the global medals from the 2017 outdoor champs to current day.

It's not a weird use - it's pointing out how silly it is to claim there is only one.

In the three world track Championships since, they have 3 medalists. Jager, Frerichs, and Ahmed.

Portland Hobby Jogger wrote:

WC and Oly team spots have also been filled over the past five years by:

Emily Infeld (Beijing WC 10K bronze in 2015)

Colleen Quigley

Marielle Hall

Karissa Schweizer

Shelby Houlihan

Ryan Hill (WC Indoors 2017 3K silver)

Carrie Dimoff

Matt Centowitz (2019 WC after joining BTC)

Mo Ahmed (2019 WC 5K bronze competing for Canada)

A real "do-nothing" group of underachievers. eh? Too bad they hardly ever race "B" level meets as it seems to keep them from reaching the big stages.

MAKING a World or Olympic Team is meaningless for a group with the resources that BTC has. When a Brooks or Hoka athlete makes the team, that's a reason to celebrate. But with the financial power and resources of Nike behind them? Evan Jager's performance is great. Mo Ahmed's is good. Ryan Hill, Centrowitz (since arriving), Hall, etc.? Not even worth celebrating.

the beagle wrote:

Seyta wrote:

On the world stage, the total number of individuals who have been successful are:

- Jager (2016, 2017)

- Flanagan (2010, 2014, 2017, 2018)

- Frerichs (2017)

- Hastings/Cragg (2017, 2018)

Notably, Kara Goucher joined BTC only AFTER her successful days (surprisingly, under Salazar)

I may have missed some, but as a whole, the group has been around for something like 15 years now, and has relied very heavily on Shalane (who was already an Olympic Silver Medalist before arriving) to carry their success.

Well you're missing at least three medalists off the top of my head. I'm not sure why you'd start a list if it is going to be that inaccurate and your follow up is merely "I may have missed some".

As someone previously pointed out, Infeld and Ahmed were indeed missed.

Ryan Hill does not qualify as a third. Everyone knows that Indoor World's is worthless. A single outdoor Diamond League victory is more prominent than Indoor World's given the level of competition that shows up to either.

Seyta wrote:

the beagle wrote:

Well you're missing at least three medalists off the top of my head. I'm not sure why you'd start a list if it is going to be that inaccurate and your follow up is merely "I may have missed some".

As someone previously pointed out, Infeld and Ahmed were indeed missed.

Ryan Hill does not qualify as a third. Everyone knows that Indoor World's is worthless. A single outdoor Diamond League victory is more prominent than Indoor World's given the level of competition that shows up to either.

So, you're insinuating that the following are scrubs from the world indoor 3k in 2016 where Hill medaled?

Yomif kejelcha

Augustine Choge

Iguider

Paul Chelimo

Caleb ndiku

Moh Ahmed

Alamirew

Isaiah Koech

Seyta wrote:

the beagle wrote:

Well you're missing at least three medalists off the top of my head. I'm not sure why you'd start a list if it is going to be that inaccurate and your follow up is merely "I may have missed some".

As someone previously pointed out, Infeld and Ahmed were indeed missed.

Ryan Hill does not qualify as a third. Everyone knows that Indoor World's is worthless. A single outdoor Diamond League victory is more prominent than Indoor World's given the level of competition that shows up to either.

Hill lost to Kejelcha, and beat Augustine Choge, Iguider, Ndiku, Chelimo and Isiah Koech. That's a decent level of competition.