Katelyn Touhy 15:36!!!

For example the girl that got a 180 I think her name is Melody Fairchild

Correct me if I'm wrong but

She ran 180 but for most of her career averaged around round 155 maybe 160 tuohy's been averaging close to 170 the last three years

You talkin about consistently running 30 seconds faster than the best girls in history that's why it's a real attention-getter!

Chris P wrote:

For example the girl that got a 180 I think her name is Melody Fairchild

Correct me if I'm wrong but

She ran 180 but for most of her career averaged around round 155 maybe 160 tuohy's been averaging close to 170 the last three years

You talkin about consistently running 30 seconds faster than the best girls in history that's why it's a real attention-getter!

amber trotter

But you are right that Tuohy has a large share of the highest ratings for 1 reasons 1) She has run fast a lot and 2) there are way more races rated now

Chris P wrote:

For example the girl that got a 180 I think her name is Melody Fairchild

Correct me if I'm wrong but

She ran 180 but for most of her career averaged around round 155 maybe 160 tuohy's been averaging close to 170 the last three years

You talkin about consistently running 30 seconds faster than the best girls in history that's why it's a real attention-getter!

amber trotter

But you are right that Tuohy has a large share of the highest ratings for 1 reasons 1) She has run fast a lot and 2) there are way more races rated now

Looks like FM is running scared. They’re adding a ringer for NXN.

Who's the ringer? How can they do that? Is it because there are running club. Yeah how does that work isn't this High School competitions. What do you mean they have a girl who's going to run but doesn't go to that school.

Chris P wrote:

Who's the ringer? How can they do that? Is it because there are running club. Yeah how does that work isn't this High School competitions. What do you mean they have a girl who's going to run but doesn't go to that school.

i don't believe it says anywhere in the NXN rules that the "clubs" that are entered must have all members from the same school

So FM could enter a club of FM people (likely Claire Walters, Phoebe White, Hannah Kaercher, Grace Kaercher, Debbie Lucchetti, and Amelia Amack) and an individual from another school as their club at NXR

The fastest runner they could feasibly get is Brooke Rauber because her team doesn't really stand a chance at making NXN and she and Walters are good friends

That one might be too obvious and cause a lot of backlash though

Karrie Baloga might be a better option-- very fast but people are less likely to know for a fact that she does not attend FM

From unattached returners to NXR-NY the fastest two are Olivia Morganti and Sydney Nowicki

Nowicki qualified as an individual two years ago

Don’t look for Tuohy to be running too many outdoor track races in 2020. On her Instagram feed she says she’s shooting for OT in the 5k. She thinks 3,000 could be her best event, but since that’s not an option, will have a go at the 5k.

I think it’s great that she’s set a clear goal now to work towards that should define her training and racing schedule. I hope she does it. I believe she needs to get to 15:22.

While it may not technically be outside the rules, there has definitely been an unwritten rule that these clubs do actually represent a high school team. The reason for the clubs was that many schools do not officially condone, or finance the post season competition. I'm not aware of any team that did bring an outsider???

...now this is LR sarcasm, but if you could just bring a mixed team, then Loudon Valley wouldn't even have to go to the trouble to get kids to move to their school district.

Yeah if anyone can form a club and run together at nxn why don't all the New York girls just form a Dream Team?

Tuohy Brooke rauber and Claire Walters would be a pretty good one two three

Why wouldn't she just be running the 3K indoors and the 3200 Outdoors

And then find whatever five k's she can enter cuz there's a few of those as well. I'm sure she'll should still be running but just focus on the longer distances

Ummmmm.... I think people will know pretty quickly if they get a top Runner who doesn't go to the school

I mean all the stats and events these girls run are available on the internet and word will get around pretty quick if a top Runner just joins their Club all the sudden

Need why don't they just get Katelyn Tuohy if that's the thinking that they can just have anyone join their Club. That is if North Rockland doesn't make it

The rule is they all have to be in the same school district . Not necessarily all on the same high school team but enrolled in the school on the day of the regionals . I recall a girls team from the middle of the state about 10 years ago who had a girl who was top 5 in the state for another school enroll in their district before regionals . They made it to NXN

Hounddogharrier wrote:

The rule is they all have to be in the same school district . Not necessarily all on the same high school team but enrolled in the school on the day of the regionals . I recall a girls team from the middle of the state about 10 years ago who had a girl who was top 5 in the state for another school enroll in their district before regionals . They made it to NXN

If you’re referring to East Aurora in 2013 they did not qualify to NXN as a team that year. Sophia Tasselmeyer who transferred to EA after the state meet did qualify as an individual.

ObservingObserver wrote:

While speed ratings aren't exactly comparable from course to course...

Then what's the point of the whole "speed rating" system? Random three-digit numbers starting with 1?

Yeah they made a mistake!

That is the whole point of speed ratings

Not only does it compare course to course but it also takes into account conditions

So it really is trying to give a baseline Up Performance without any other limiting factors

Speed ratings equals how well you are running

DC Wonk wrote:

Don’t look for Tuohy to be running too many outdoor track races in 2020. On her Instagram feed she says she’s shooting for OT in the 5k. She thinks 3,000 could be her best event, but since that’s not an option, will have a go at the 5k.

I think it’s great that she’s set a clear goal now to work towards that should define her training and racing schedule. I hope she does it. I believe she needs to get to 15:22.

I think that was posted a while ago but and this is completely in line for me to say, this is a terrible idea. I want nothing but the best for her but she just isn't ready yet and I feel like the things she would have to try to do to be ready would be bad for long term development. I said it was a bad idea for Mary Cain to go pro and do what she did and sadly that seems to be accurate.

To have a shot in the 5K she probably needs to be ready to go around 15:10 and be able to close in 62. Not sure I've seen anything to make me think she is capable of that at the moment. Seems like she has all the tools to get their eventually but that sort of speed development takes some time. Go to a program that is good at developing 1500 and 5k runners and that sort of speed will come. Maybe pick one that has some other good kids and win some national titles along the way.

Maybe she just wants to to go to the trials, to race on the same track with some of her heroes? Did she say she was aiming to make the team, or just wanted to qualify for the trials? Two different things.

i don't believe it says anywhere in the NXN rules that the "clubs" that are entered must have all members from the same school

Yes, the rules state this- a runner once wanted to run with my team (he was from a neighbor school) and I asked Nike and they sent me the specific rule- it's there, I saw it but I wanted to confirm it.

There are no all star teams.

NOW- you CAN include a soccer player who can run but is from your school.

donairs wrote:

Maybe she just wants to to go to the trials, to race on the same track with some of her heroes? Did she say she was aiming to make the team, or just wanted to qualify for the trials? Two different things.

The best HS runner in a long time who has an incredibly bright future isn't going to waste her summer by just going to the trials for the fun of it. That would be a huge dent in her college XC season if she goes that route. For people in her position you go to the trials with the thought you can make the team or you don't go at all.