Snowflakes win again? DI Northeast regional XC championships is changed to road race because it snowed

If you just want to run in hard conditions with obstacles just do a Spartan Race or Tough Mudder.

This is a race, the focus needs to be on the running.

Bonkers wrote:

This whole thing is just classic.

Old people decide to have a November xc race in Buffalo.

Decision proves disastrous

Old people then blame "kids these days".

If the people scheduling the race and those saying they should still race XC were the same people, then this would be truly ironic. However, they are not. At the end of the day, everyone is still going to have to run a race to qualify for NCAAs. I don't think it is such a big deal, but they should do everything in their power to try and create a XC race. If they feel they did that and it is still unsafe, then the roads it is.

They should really have Stony Brook or Hofstra host the meet down at Sunken Meadow in Long Island; true cross country course and as south as the northeast region gets, never snows on Long Island in November.

That's not unusual. OP is probably somewhere between 26-30, plenty of people still have roommates at that age.

Looks like they posted the courses:

https://spark.adobe.com/page/GLsNSxb544SHO/

This will be an interesting course considering both car and foot traffic on a Friday at the University of Buffalo. Looks like they tried to route the race away from the central area of campus but might be a little crazy.

Just finished a course run through. Several teams decked out in vaporflys. Some shoe guys are trying to sell vaporflys to the teams that don't have them.

As a frosh from Cali, I ran D3 New Englands in '87 at Southeastern Massachusetts University (Now UMass Dartmouth) as an injury/sickness replacement when the course, normally very fast, was covered with mud and snow . I made the mistake of running without spikes because I thought they'd be a problem on the road sections of the course, so I was spinning my wheels much of the race a lot slower than I was capable, whereas most others had rightly put on long spikes and were moving quickly and not slowing much if at all on the roads. But the thing is that you can run in spikes on icy grass and it is not going to hurt in most cases. The mistake here was to plow and shovel the course, letting the ice make a difference. Had they just packed it down, it might even have been fine. The winner would have run around 32-33, but that's okay. It would have been a fair race. If they're going to the roads, they absolutely should have some hills for difficulty so that it's not just like a long track race, which benefits those who aren't great at xc.

NErunnr wrote:

Looks like they posted the courses:

https://spark.adobe.com/page/GLsNSxb544SHO/

This will be an interesting course considering both car and foot traffic on a Friday at the University of Buffalo. Looks like they tried to route the race away from the central area of campus but might be a little crazy.

I'm sure they're going to devote a lot of resources to make sure those roads are closed.

Although the idea of dodging traffic Frogger-style as you run the race is appealing to me.

Weather tomorrow in Buffalo is 35 and sunny . I’m going to be running the original course on my own . I’ll be 70 next July but I come from harder stock than the marshmallows we call D1 athletes these days .

Pogo wrote:

The gator is getting stuck trying to clear the course.

The ground is a bog, freezing at night, thawing irregularly during the day.

The golf course doesn't want to have 6 months of damage done to it in 2 hours.

Why was my posted edited by a moderator for calling out the obvious absurdity of older people crying about a generation issue that shouldn't exist? I did not swear. I did not hide behind "OK boomer".

The runners had NOTHING to do with this decision. The runners had no VOICE in this decision. But someone on the moderation team wants to protect this precious narrative that they are somehow at fault.

XC is a dumb sport. Lets just move on to indoors.

I heard one team has some loyal supporters, traveling to the meet, stopping in other upstate NY cities to buy the Vaporflys for their team today. ...Probably make bank in Buffalo if one had an allotment of Vaporflys.

Update on the new road course: Epstein did not kill himself.

Heard reports Nike is flying out a team to film a promo for the next% because everyone in the top 100 will be wearing them. Pink stampede

Agreed - who is actually complaining? the so called anti-snowflake types who are hating on the literal and figurative snowflakes. So funny!!

Such hypocrisy it's practically trump.

Hey everyone! look at a group thats not complaining - let's complain about them!

Waaah whaaaa whhhaaaa

What did the umass lowell coach do?

Hit up the nike outlet in Niagara Falls!!!

1900 Military Rd, Niagara Falls, NY 14304

We ran in all snow conditions at Michigan St. at the 1979 District Championships.

wtfrojo wrote:

Thank god you waited to contribute to the conversation until you found all this out. Oh wait, your post complaining about how this is a disgrace is still up on page 1....

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