I just have to wonder how the NCAA and IAAF manage to keep their competitions from descending into chaos without similar rigidly enforced rules.
I just have to wonder how the NCAA and IAAF manage to keep their competitions from descending into chaos without similar rigidly enforced rules.
All Religions Are Insane wrote:
David S wrote:
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/high-school-athlete-disqualified-at-crosscountry-meet-for-wearing-hijab-004341741.htmlYou're allowed to wear a hijab in the Olympics but not in the Christian Caliphate of Ohio...
First: I live in Ohio as an atheist who is completely appalled by the Christian right or any other right wing segment of a religion. Don't paint us all with this brush.
Second: as someone who views all religions with an equal amount of shock at the non-sense they can believe, I always find it pretty ironic that the political left, especially the SJWs, find that is their mission to make sure that hijabs (and other religious clothing that women wear) are protected.
By doing this they are, on the one hand, protecting an article of clothing that has, for centuries, subjugated women and kept them oppressed in a religious context. With the same breathe they are claiming to be great emancipators...freeing non-Western women from Christian/Western definitions of normative behavior.
Claiming to be freeing someone from oppression by granting them freedom to be oppressed. I guess it's too difficult to ask for some consistency.
Are you blaming the rule on "the Christian right or any other right wing segment of a religion?"
It was the feminists, progressives or leftists in France that fought to ban the hijab.
Hardloper wrote:
Damn libs, can you go one day without pretending to be outraged
Well except for the log cabin boys, the Republicans do not exactly approve of your lifestyle me boy.
knocker wrote:
isnt it slightly offensive to have a nike symbol on your hijab?
Good point. The Taliban would consider it idolatry and act accordingly like they in Afghanistan.
I coached at high school where i had many athletes wearing these. I asked the girls to wear solid black just like I did for all my athletes wearing under armor etc. Some girls wore more of their dress than others but I was waiting for an old school office to one day try to disqualify one of them but never did surprisingly. Guess my State is more forward thinking lol
AnotherVoiceOfReason wrote:
It's a hijab and doesn't interfere with visibility of the team uniform, so the rule is stupid. However, it is clearly stated in the manual.
Taken from here, page 7-8.
https://www.ohsaa.org/Portals/0/Sports/Cross%20Country/CCManual.pdf"4. Apparel...
c) During inclement weather, Cross Country runners may wear the Navy Watch Style knit
cap. The cap may have no bill, but may have a knit ball on top or a tassel or tail provided
the tassel or tail is no longer than ½ depth or length of the cap.
d) Headbands may be worn provided the headband is manufactured for that purpose. Rolled
up bandannas or other articles are illegal."
Here's where the request comes in based on religion or other reasons to alter the uniform.
"5. Exceptions
A competitor who requires an exception to the uniform rules because of religious restrictions or
otherwise, must submit a request for a variance from the OHSAA via e-mail (
dgabor@ohsaa.org). If the
variance is granted, a written, signed approval of the variance must be presented to the referee
prior to competition."
All they had to do was submit the request and show an official before the meet in question. Smaller meet hosts don't generally give a crap, but once you enter the state series, all bets are off. The coach, school's AD, and the athlete all dropped the ball on this one.
On the other hand, Ohio should update its rules to make religious restrictions unnecessary to submit a formal request, as more and more diversity amongst athletes is inevitable (and a good thing). Until then, read the manual, follow the rules, and she can compete.
Except it not a freakin hat
All Religions Are Insane wrote:
David S wrote:
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/high-school-athlete-disqualified-at-crosscountry-meet-for-wearing-hijab-004341741.htmlYou're allowed to wear a hijab in the Olympics but not in the Christian Caliphate of Ohio...
First: I live in Ohio as an atheist who is completely appalled by the Christian right or any other right wing segment of a religion. Don't paint us all with this brush.
Second: as someone who views all religions with an equal amount of shock at the non-sense they can believe, I always find it pretty ironic that the political left, especially the SJWs, find that is their mission to make sure that hijabs (and other religious clothing that women wear) are protected.
By doing this they are, on the one hand, protecting an article of clothing that has, for centuries, subjugated women and kept them oppressed in a religious context. With the same breathe they are claiming to be great emancipators...freeing non-Western women from Christian/Western definitions of normative behavior.
Claiming to be freeing someone from oppression by granting them freedom to be oppressed. I guess it's too difficult to ask for some consistency.
Her hijab is similar to a nun's wimple. While there are few, if any, nuns in Protestantism, there are many in Anglicanism/Episcopalianism, Eastern Orthodoxy and Catholicism.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WimpleElvin wrote:
Serious Question. wrote:
Why does this need to be a rule? Why do you need an exception to wear a head garment in the first place?
Because without stupid rules, the people whose job it is to make and enforce stupid rules wouldn't be able to justify their own existence.
This exchange sums it up.
Pierre Delecto wrote:
Gosh.
It’s no wonder Trump won Ohio.
The place must be full of racist, sexist, misogynist, xenophobic bigots.
Wait.
She could have raced in her hijab had her coach known the rules and followed them.
Oh.
?♂️
No irony here at all
Wow are you dumb and uneducated. Just wow. How you you even survive in this world.
A stupid and unnecessary rule.
Recall running XC in freezing weather and most of us were wearing beanies, long sleeves and gloves.
Many were wearing tights also.
citius5000 wrote:
I coached at high school where i had many athletes wearing these. I asked the girls to wear solid black just like I did for all my athletes wearing under armor etc. Some girls wore more of their dress than others but I was waiting for an old school office to one day try to disqualify one of them but never did surprisingly. Guess my State is more forward thinking lol
I've coached two girls in California who wore hijabs and it was never a problem. Ridiculous to disqualify someone for that or require an exemption in the first place. At the same time I think it's ridiculous to overreact to the situation. Best thing to do here is for Ohio to say, "Hey, this rule is obviously outdated or wasn't considering this could be an issue. She is officially reinstated as having finished and no exemptions are necessary in the future for hijabs." That's all it takes. It doesn't need to be a difficult thing.
To say women wearing hijab are modest, implies that women not wearing hijab are not modest.
alpha wrote:
Veil Jail wrote:
Why should hate symbols be allowed in XC? It's the ultimate symbol of misogyny. If someone showed up with a Swastika T-shirt, I'm pretty sure they would be DQ'ed as well.
Let's not forget the function of the 'veil jail', imposed in this case on a 16yo girl: to stop Muslim men from getting so horny when they see a women's hair, that they can't resist and rape her.
Hate symbol? It's a symbol of modesty and self respect.
Ya know whats worse than an INCEL?
A whiney SJW tw@t like you.
Did Galen Rupp have to get an exemption for his NOPer ice hat, which actually conferred an advantage in hot marathon weather? Those should be banned entirely.
cali vibes wrote:
citius5000 wrote:
I coached at high school where i had many athletes wearing these. I asked the girls to wear solid black just like I did for all my athletes wearing under armor etc. Some girls wore more of their dress than others but I was waiting for an old school office to one day try to disqualify one of them but never did surprisingly. Guess my State is more forward thinking lol
I've coached two girls in California who wore hijabs and it was never a problem. Ridiculous to disqualify someone for that or require an exemption in the first place. At the same time I think it's ridiculous to overreact to the situation. Best thing to do here is for Ohio to say, "Hey, this rule is obviously outdated or wasn't considering this could be an issue. She is officially reinstated as having finished and no exemptions are necessary in the future for hijabs." That's all it takes. It doesn't need to be a difficult thing.
+1
knocker wrote:
isnt it slightly offensive to have a nike symbol on your hijab?
I chuckled imagining all the nuns (at my Catholic church growing up) wearing habits with swooshes. Maybe even the pope's hat with one!
Then I remembered this
https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/4a797420731a828e600b6a1ada29aa12I have no problem with this... wrote:
Veil Jail wrote:
Let's not forget the function of the 'veil jail', imposed in this case on a 16yo girl: to stop Muslim men from getting so horny when they see a women's hair, that they can't resist and rape her.
That seems like a useful function actually.
I'll bett it's why Kenyan girls have shaved heads.
they'd have a field day at Boston 2018
Where would HS XC be without the geriatric powertripping refs?
moanswers wrote:
Why the eff wrote:
Why the Hell would you need an exemption to wear a hijab?
+1
It's a HS XC race! How does what one wears on their head give anyone and advantage or disadvantage?
HS xc uniform rules are over the top. The only rule should be that your team you run for is identifiable on the front and back of the jersey. Isn't that all that matters when it comes to the actual race? If a school wants to make rules about how it is represented in public which could dictate what racers wear, then that is up to the school. but the governing bodies of track and XC need to focus on putting on a race with an even playing field and stop being uniform cops.
The USA is so over the top about everything.
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