June Eastwood Update

bekeler wrote:

Big Jon is living every dude's dream!

https://gogriz.com/images/2019/10/19/IMG_4495.jpg

Well, he is the best looking of the bunch.

Why isn't June wearing bunnies like the other girls?

Brezhnev wrote:

TruthSpeaker wrote:

Well, he is the best looking of the bunch.

I wouldn’t go as far as that, but I will say, if I was coming in cold and you told me one of persons pictured was born male, I’d suspect the very tall one obviously but I would have to ask a follow up question, “was the male who decided to transition a 70 year old Russian peasant?” to rule out my other suspicion.

Whoever you're referring to might read letsrun, so you might want to keep your opinions to yourself.

“June is not a psycho. If I was her I would have no interest in showering with my teammates and I doubt if she does either. “

I’m not so sure. Doesn’t June have a girlfriend? If I were a trans mtf lesbian, i would want to shower with my teammates. Imagine being June and getting a chubby in the showers and nobody could complain because it would be transphobic.

SDSU Aztec wrote:

Whoever you're referring to might read letsrun, so you might want to keep your opinions to yourself.

+1 first of all, but second of all, I hope to God the Montana team isn't in the habit of reading this forum. Of course, you don't have to spend a long time on this forum to learn that of all the things the mods care to remove, pointless personal attacks on nonparticipants in the conversation are, well... not high on the list.

To others' points about showering with teammates.... is that something runners do? I don't remember ever having a group shower with teammates in college? We just showered in our dorms... Was my college experience atypical, or are people just trying to make cheap points against June? I mean, I know they're doing that in many contexts here, but I don't know what to make of this particular one.

I'm pretty sure that at least some of June's teammates read threads about her on LR. Because of what she's doing there are going to be comments about her appearance and it comes with the territory. My point is that someone in a team photo with June is absolutely not fair game.

I showered with teammates one time in three years of college. As for June, she wants to be accepted as being female and exposing her package to teammates would seem to be counter productive.

As for sharing a room, if doing so makes her teammates uncomfortable and if I was the coach, she would get her own room. It's not a big deal.

Oh, you run varsity at a D3 school. ? What’s your 5k PR? Oh, 25 minutes. At least you’re having fun, sweetie! That’s the only thing that matters!

D3 varsity wrote:

Female D3 runner here.

This is what I have noticed about this debate:

# of female runners on June’s team that think she shouldn’t run: 0

# of female runners on other teams that think she shouldn’t run: 0

# of coaches of other teams that think she shouldn’t run: 0

# of old white guys that think she shouldn’t run and who probably feel funny about being attracted to her: like a couple 100

Can you all just shut up and realize that there are some situations where your opinion is not worthwhile. This is one of those instances.

I agree completely, leave Big Jon's teammates alone. We shouldn't make comments about one of the girls.

Men however are free game.

Confusing lesbians wrote:

“June is not a psycho. If I was her I would have no interest in showering with my teammates and I doubt if she does either. “

I’m not so sure. Doesn’t June have a girlfriend? If I were a trans mtf lesbian, i would want to shower with my teammates. Imagine being June and getting a chubby in the showers and nobody could complain because it would be transphobic.

Does she have a GF? I haven't read that anywhere. There is no indication that June is a pervert like you would be if you were transgender. Your personal fantasy is a little troubling.

What does June's father think of this. Does she have a father who participated fully and wonderfully in her life?

ginko biloba wrote:

To others' points about showering with teammates.... is that something runners do? I don't remember ever having a group shower with teammates in college? We just showered in our dorms... Was my college experience atypical, or are people just trying to make cheap points against June? I mean, I know they're doing that in many contexts here, but I don't know what to make of this particular one.

So if June has a meet out of state, she should shower in her dorm, or what are you saying?

SDSU Aztec wrote:

As for June, she wants to be accepted as being female and exposing her package to teammates would seem to be counter productive.

As for sharing a room, if doing so makes her teammates uncomfortable and if I was the coach, she would get her own room. It's not a big deal.

How dare you make such a transphobic comment about her "package"?

June's private parts aren't your business, but just FYI information, there are a lot of trans women with penises, just like there are trans men with vaginas who get their period. There is no relationship whatsoever between your genitals and your gender.

Trans women are women, June has every right to share a room and a shower with her teammates. If that makes some cis people uncomfortable, they should check their privilege and go to a diversity training.

SDSU Aztec wrote:

Confusing lesbians wrote:

“June is not a psycho. If I was her I would have no interest in showering with my teammates and I doubt if she does either. “

I’m not so sure. Doesn’t June have a girlfriend? If I were a trans mtf lesbian, i would want to shower with my teammates. Imagine being June and getting a chubby in the showers and nobody could complain because it would be transphobic.

Does she have a GF? I haven't read that anywhere. There is no indication that June is a pervert like you would be if you were transgender. Your personal fantasy is a little troubling.

Yeah he has a GF. Plus-size and member of the alt-left. It's a mystery for everyone in Missoula how this even works. They were together before Jonathan transitioned, so she suddenly turned into a lesbian? I guess she is happy about the extra oppression points.

SDSU Aztec wrote:

Confusing lesbians wrote:

“June is not a psycho. If I was her I would have no interest in showering with my teammates and I doubt if she does either. “

I’m not so sure. Doesn’t June have a girlfriend? If I were a trans mtf lesbian, i would want to shower with my teammates. Imagine being June and getting a chubby in the showers and nobody could complain because it would be transphobic.

Does she have a GF? I haven't read that anywhere. There is no indication that June is a pervert like you would be if you were transgender. Your personal fantasy is a little troubling.

More cis white privilege. My gender just happens to be attracted to mtf transgender lesbian runners AND any women who are naked in showers. How dare you call me a pervert.

Curioser wrote:

What does June's father think of this. Does she have a father who participated fully and wonderfully in her life?

What would any father think if his son went nuts? He is no longer part of "June's" bio.

Personal: A 2015 graduate of Belgrade High ... The son of Tom and Nicole Eastwood ... Has two younger sisters, Autumn and Sydney ... A women’s, gender and sexuality studies major.

Personal: A 2015 graduate of Belgrade High ... A philosophy major.

SDSU Aztec wrote:

vvzz wrote:

Yeah he has a GF. Plus-size and member of the alt-left. It's a mystery for everyone in Missoula how this even works. They were together before Jonathan transitioned, so she suddenly turned into a lesbian? I guess she is happy about the extra oppression points.

What is your source for the plus-size, alt-left GF? There are many anti-June articles online and they would run with that story if it was true.

Just check Big Jon's social media? Or the documentary where he is portrayed as a hero?

Jonathan is also a member of the far left, to the surprise of no one. Did you know that Jonathan is even the co-director of the *Women’s* Resource Center? What a joke.

Brezhnev wrote:

TruthSpeaker wrote:

Well, he is the best looking of the bunch.

I wouldn’t go as far as that, but I will say, if I was coming in cold and you told me one of persons pictured was born male, I’d suspect the very tall one obviously but I would have to ask a follow up question, “was the male who decided to transition a 70 year old Russian peasant?” to rule out my other suspicion.

the report feature is a thing guys

Kelati wins and finishes at (1:41) in the video

June competed here (finishes at 4:15). Had I not known who she was or what she would have looked like, it would never cross my mind that there would be a transwoman with some sort of superior advantage running in the race.

I don't think it's such a scary big deal for women's sport as people seem to be making it about in the grand scheme of things.

NoticerOfThingss wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrjZz8Ly1YY

Kelati wins and finishes at (1:41) in the video

June competed here (finishes at 4:15). Had I not known who she was or what she would have looked like, it would never cross my mind that there would be a transwoman with some sort of superior advantage running in the race.

I don't think it's such a scary big deal for women's sport as people seem to be making it about in the grand scheme of things.

That's because more this outcry has to do with hating on trans people rather than actually caring about women's sports.

sub sub elite local hobby jogger wrote:

That's because more this outcry has to do with hating on trans people rather than actually caring about women's sports.

While June’s running definitely provides an outlet for certain kinds of people who want to be angry at trans folk, I don’t think you can so easily dismiss everyone who is against her participation that way, that’s not really fair. Plenty of people have said they think the only limitation trans people should be subject to is in sports, and I think it’s only fair to take them at their word unless or until they blow their cover, if there is a cover to be blown.

Somewhat of a tangent, but I’ve said before I hope she and her teammates don’t read these boards or even like go on the internet really. If she has even so much as peeked at what is being said here and on every two-bit right wing wrath-blog of the kind that nitwits have posted on this thread, I wouldn’t be surprised if she just wanted to get this race over with. I see she finished below some people she had beaten recently. No matter what you think of her personally or of her running with women, try to imagine what it must be like to know that everyone’s eye is on you at the meet, to know 100 percent that people are turning your way for a second look as you go past them in warmups or in the race or even in the team hotel, to know people are whispering, “yeah, that’s the one,” and to know there are people there who don’t want you competing and that some subset of that group hates the very idea of people like you, irrespective of what you do in sports. I, uh... I think that would wear me down a bit! Some here will probably say she deserves that, but I’d argue against them.