bartholomew_maxwell wrote:
American male runners suck. Rupp couldn't even beat Kosgei at her pace.
Cut him some slack. He had to recover from a major surgery.
He's 33 years old, so he still has time to improve. Bekele is 37 years old.
bartholomew_maxwell wrote:
American male runners suck. Rupp couldn't even beat Kosgei at her pace.
Cut him some slack. He had to recover from a major surgery.
He's 33 years old, so he still has time to improve. Bekele is 37 years old.
RunningNoob420 wrote:
This is incredibly sad to hear. Hope his Achilles are okay.
This is incredibly joyous to hear. Hope he can never run another step.
He's Filthy wrote:
RunningNoob420 wrote:
This is incredibly sad to hear. Hope his Achilles are okay.
This is incredibly joyous to hear. Hope he can never run another step.
Can LR be saved by decent people? Or will it crash and burn because of the trash that gets posted on here? It’s up to the owners if LR wants to be relevant to the running community or if they want to be a cesspool of smelly crap. They really need to clean this place up. Make all posters be registered and kick people out that smell this place up. PLEASE!
All of Rupp’s accomplishments will have an asterisk after them. Ha ha
Terrible thing, that asthma, huh?
could not agree more. we have a lot of sick minds on this sight.
He's Filthy wrote:
RunningNoob420 wrote:
This is incredibly sad to hear. Hope his Achilles are okay.
This is incredibly joyous to hear. Hope he can never run another step.
Amen to that. I hate cheaters so very much.
If you tuck enough into the 401K, you can just live off the interest....Alberto, Jordan, and Galen will be fine. I think Mo has been off the EPO for a bit....2:09....he probably has that capability testosterone free.
Take the Money......AND RUN!
When are going to realize that they ain't coming after certain runners. That's a fact. Mark McGuire and Sammy Sosa are counting their Benjamins as they cry about not getting into Cooperstown because the press that created them is now morally enlightened? Hahahahahahaha....
Having to give up his fake inhalers over the past two weeks must have been quite a blow. Going without his ‘vitamin B’ shots, shoot it’s incredible he was on 2:08 pace. And completely agree the calf thing was faked. The dude has no guts and is a quitter.
I almost wish he'd pulled off after being dropped at 7 miles and taken another shot in a couple of weeks or so. Maybe his calf could've held up better on a different day.
You are one of the most toxic people on this board. Trying to accuse someone of doping as if you know they have doped, or have watched them inject EPO, is out of line. Unless of course you are going to just accuse every single athlete currently competing that has any affiliation with a coach, agent or training mate in their camp that has been outed for doping violations, then you shouldn't single out just Rupp.
Of course, you are intolerant of those who also don't think like you politically (Republicans are evil!), so by default you consider it to be "open minded" to state it as a foregone conclusion Rupp is doped, but not many of the athletes in east Africa affiliated with agents, coaches and training partners that have had doping violations. If you are going to accuse only by affiliation, then you cannot pick and choose. By going off of affiliation, this pro running community is pretty small.
By the way, what about Jenny Simpson paying visits to the doctor in Houston? Are you turning a blind eye because it's a female? Oh wait, that's not being liberal. That's just being ignorant, and actually sexist that you are incapable of holding both genders to the same level of scrutiny.
I have no opinion on Rupp as an athlete or human being, but how is it that people can enjoy the failure of others so much, as seen in this and other threads? There is a certain sadism in that, and I am much more concerned for these individuals than Rupp. Life isn't black-or-white. Salazar and Rupp aren't either all good or all bad. There's no need for this dehumanization. The fact is that none of us knows how we would act if given the talent and resources that Rupp has. This is too much.
You’d think he would’ve at least gutted it out the final 3 miles to get the finishers medal.
bartholomew_maxwell wrote:
This is crazy. American male runners suck. Rupp couldn't even beat Kosgei at her pace. He should have gamed it and at least finished.
He had a major achilles surgery.
It's amazing he can even run fast at all.
Man, it would be crazy if Rupp never gets it back together to run well after this Salazar thing. No one will remember him being such a dominant American runner. Just forgotten (aside from the record books)
No tune up race, DNS in Philly last month, secretive training, no wonder he’s an enigma amongst running fans.
notaruppfan wrote:
I have no opinion on Rupp as an athlete or human being, but how is it that people can enjoy the failure of others so much, as seen in this and other threads? There is a certain sadism in that, and I am much more concerned for these individuals than Rupp. Life isn't black-or-white. Salazar and Rupp aren't either all good or all bad. There's no need for this dehumanization. The fact is that none of us knows how we would act if given the talent and resources that Rupp has. This is too much.
I don’t think there’s really that much disagreement with what you say. LR, however, offers a platform to creepy people to be obnoxious and get theirs kicks by making super-nasty comments about anybody and everything. Whether body-shaming women or tearing down American runners (( I particularly puked over a disgusting comment a poster made about the body shape of Kipchoge’s wife!), LR seems to value the income from their Board clicks over the integrity of distance running. Even though they appear to be journalists that focus on our favorite sport, they disregard the complete and DAMAGIMG crap that gets spewed about runners , even innocent up-and-coming high school runners on LR. This isn’t a free speech issue, this is LR’s total disregard for irresponsible and trashy posts that damage the integrity of our sport. The owners of LR could change the tenor of their website, but they decline to take responsibility for what gets posted here, not matter how destructive. I think there is a market for responsible coverage of our favorite sport and I can only hope that someone will step in and do so if LR doesn’t shape up.
notaruppfan wrote:
I have no opinion on Rupp as an athlete or human being, but how is it that people can enjoy the failure of others so much, as seen in this and other threads? There is a certain sadism in that, and I am much more concerned for these individuals than Rupp. Life isn't black-or-white. Salazar and Rupp aren't either all good or all bad. There's no need for this dehumanization. The fact is that none of us knows how we would act if given the talent and resources that Rupp has. This is too much.
I for one take great joy in seeing Rupp and Hasay fail today. I have no idea what career they are prepared for outside of running, but their ousting from the sport in my mind cannot come fast enough. You can call me a sadist all you want, but that is absolutely where I stand. I for one am shocked by the number of apologists for Hasay and Rupp, who also claim to be fans of the sport.
There are still a lot of clean professional runners out there, who struggle to make ends meet while abiding by the rules of the sport. Galen is a grown man who has willingly chosen to work with, and defend a coach that has had a long history of pushing the boundaries of those rules. Surprise, we are now finding that AlSal blurred the lines between grey and black so much so that he violated those rules and the spirit of fair competition that they're based on. The day he was handed a 4 year suspension was a good day for all of the clean athletes who have missed out on podium finishes, sponsorship opportunities, and the media coverage afforded to AlSal's precious inner circle (Galen, Hasay, Mo, and others over the years).
"The fact is that none of us knows how we would act if given the talent and resources that Rupp has"
Also, this quote ^^^ . I really despise this statement. As if the only people in the universe who can formulate an opinion regarding the decisions Rupp has made, are the ones who have run under 2:10 for a marathon. It's very true, I never had the talent that Rupp has, and will be the first to admit that. However, by some cruel twist of fate I found myself in a training group for a long period of time, surrounded by people that DID have that type of talent. These were the guys who beat Rupp when he had an off day in college, and who were competing right there with him in High School around the time Salazar began to groom him.
Guess what happened to them over the years? The same thing that happens to most hyper-talented post-collegiate runners. They got injured, sick, or just couldn't run quite fast enough to get into this or that meet in Europe where they would be pulled along by pacesetters to a PR. They tried increasing milage (that broke a lot of guys in our little team), introducing more speed work (that pretty much broke the rest), and doing training stints at altitude (which cost money that was already going to racing in Europe). They tried pretty much everything except PEDs and anything requiring a prescription from some quack doctor in Houston. Eventually almost all of them had to make the tough decision to either put off a "normal" career for 4 more years, or soldier on without a contract.
If you've known guys/gals who have been on that professional running bubble of success, then you know damn well and good that they make tough decisions every year as to whether or not they should stay in the sport. There's not a lot of financial opportunity there, and what little there is, is taken by people like the NOP athletes that depend on AlSal/Dr. Brown's recovery cocktails and faux TUEs.
So yes, I very much rooted against Galen, Mo, and Jordan today. I make no apology for that, and if you feel the same way then neither should you.
It is still very possible that he had a minor muscular issue that was rapidly worsening. If he was having spasms and cramps, it may have become unbearable. I am not ready to assume that his Olympic spot is in jeopardy.
That being said, I did vote “DNF” in the poll. The silence and lack of racing was very worrisome. The good news is that we now know that he is still pretty damn fast.
Please chill out... wrote:
You are one of the most toxic people on this board. Trying to accuse someone of doping as if you know they have doped, or have watched them inject EPO, is out of line. Unless of course you are going to just accuse every single athlete currently competing that has any affiliation with a coach, agent or training mate in their camp that has been outed for doping violations, then you shouldn't single out just Rupp.
Of course, you are intolerant of those who also don't think like you politically (Republicans are evil!), so by default you consider it to be "open minded" to state it as a foregone conclusion Rupp is doped, but not many of the athletes in east Africa affiliated with agents, coaches and training partners that have had doping violations. If you are going to accuse only by affiliation, then you cannot pick and choose. By going off of affiliation, this pro running community is pretty small.
By the way, what about Jenny Simpson paying visits to the doctor in Houston? Are you turning a blind eye because it's a female? Oh wait, that's not being liberal. That's just being ignorant, and actually sexist that you are incapable of holding both genders to the same level of scrutiny.
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Please chill out... wrote:
You are one of the most toxic people on this board. Trying to accuse someone of doping as if you know they have doped, or have watched them inject EPO, is out of line. Unless of course you are going to just accuse every single athlete currently competing that has any affiliation with a coach, agent or training mate in their camp that has been outed for doping violations, then you shouldn't single out just Rupp.
Of course, you are intolerant of those who also don't think like you politically (Republicans are evil!), so by default you consider it to be "open minded" to state it as a foregone conclusion Rupp is doped, but not many of the athletes in east Africa affiliated with agents, coaches and training partners that have had doping violations. If you are going to accuse only by affiliation, then you cannot pick and choose. By going off of affiliation, this pro running community is pretty small.
By the way, what about Jenny Simpson paying visits to the doctor in Houston? Are you turning a blind eye because it's a female? Oh wait, that's not being liberal. That's just being ignorant, and actually sexist that you are incapable of holding both genders to the same level of scrutiny.
The cases for suspecting Rupp and Jenny are vastly different. It is a simpleton's take to think that one would have equal suspicion for all people with some semblance of a "questionable affiliation", which as you pointed out would basically be everyone.
I hope so much that we will never see rupp, centro, radcliffe, farah and hasay again. Good riddance to those cheaters.
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