Will the Salazar witchhunt end up being good or bad for United States distance running?

You've always got your roided up sprint and power events to fall back o.

Witchhunts are reserved for presidents.

If it quacks like a cheater wrote:

So we walk into an otherwise empty alley and I shoot you in the face. I exit the alley and 50 people see the gun in my hand and your brains on my shirt. People accuse me of shooting you and I say, "No I didn't. The gun is to insure other people didn't shoot you. Nobody saw me shoot you. Where's the proof that I shot you? It is just hearsay that I shot you, second hand information." I'm every bit as innocent as Salazar.

Not quite.

It's more like you shot a tree nearby to check your weapon, and people accuse you of shooting someone because they don't like you. Cops come by to look into the matter and they see no wrong doing, but notice your registration for the weapon just expired by one day. They throw you in jail for 4 years for the recently expired registration on your firearm. Everyone is rejoicing for "justice served" because they never liked you, and they don't care if the sentence was far more extreme than the customary $200 fine a normal person would get.

Except Salazar did experiments to see what doping he could get away with, then did the doping, then lied about doing the doping, then got sanctioned for doing the doping, then tried to divert attention from his doping.

Rupp goes from not being able to run sub 4 in college to being a faster miler than Jim Ryun.

Farah goes from 3:38 to 3:28 - faster than Coe, Cram and Ovett.

Hasay goes from constantly getting lapped in 10Ks to a 2:20 marathon.

Hassan runs 3:59 at the end of a 10,000.

Nothing to see here, just good old training.

Why live in those silly altitude tent houses if they were doping anyway?

real dopers laugh at you wrote:

Why live in those silly altitude tent houses if they were doping anyway?

So they could use microdosing instead of the regular old dosing that Salazar would have preferred.

Baseball Ain't a Sport wrote:

Except Salazar did experiments to see what doping he could get away with, then did the doping, then lied about doing the doping, then got sanctioned for doing the doping, then tried to divert attention from his doping.

Hope you never sit on a Jury. You added in all of that doping part on your own. USADA themselves didn't find any of his athletes doping, but somehow you did.

First, Salazar took steroids with Athletics West.

Second, he admitted that he took Prozac and that it helped him a lot for his Comrades win in 1994.

Third, he was coach of Mary Slaney when, fourteen years after her best, she won silver at World indoor and tested positive for testosterone.

Fourth, he coached his athletes on how to get doctors to give TUE's and chose Dr. Brown to get them thyroid hormones when they did not need the criteria.

Fifth, he has primarily won medals for foreign runners, so this ban may actually help the United States, as he elevated Mo Farah and Sifan Hassan to dominant status, taking away potential medals and resources from American runners, and the medals he helped Rupp and Centro (with additional coaching from his father) and Goucher win (is that it for American medalists coached by Salazar?) could have been won under Jerry or other coaches like Cook or Li.

They've basically nailed him for a process crime - deliberately sailing close to the edge but not over it. It's more than a little bit hollow. It is hollow. They need convict him of actually doping an actual athlete, and then publishing the proof. Anything less will keep the cries of "witch hunt" alive forever.

Salem MA 01970 wrote:

You all are missing a really important fact: He is a warlock.

Can he swim?

“Salazar witchhunt” is an oxymoron. The guy is a f$cking cheat.

what do you think??????????? wrote:

Anybody able to take his place or are we done winning any distance medals at the Olympics?

Short answer: Did you watch Centro this past weekend?

The Witchhunt is very bad for US Distance running.

The name told everyone what it is all about, a project. And it is not only AlSal involved. It is all of them. The NOP. Don't just have scapegoats. Get them all. It's a non-stop thing. It's expensive.

For success? Definitely not good. Maybe not too bad but how could it be a good thing? Are we going to win more because of it? Nope

Muddler wrote:

Baseball Ain't a Sport wrote:

Except Salazar did experiments to see what doping he could get away with, then did the doping, then lied about doing the doping, then got sanctioned for doing the doping, then tried to divert attention from his doping.

Hope you never sit on a Jury. You added in all of that doping part on your own. USADA themselves didn't find any of his athletes doping, but somehow you did.

The USADA said Salazar "orchestrated and facilitated prohibited doping practices". What does that sound like to you?

Armstronglivs wrote:

Muddler wrote:

Hope you never sit on a Jury. You added in all of that doping part on your own. USADA themselves didn't find any of his athletes doping, but somehow you did.

The USADA said Salazar "orchestrated and facilitated prohibited doping practices". What does that sound like to you?

It sounds to me like Salazar broke the rules, which he did. He gave Magness a transfusion that exceeded 50 mL, told his athletes not to disclose their transfusions, and administered testosterone to his sons. All of these are prohibited doping practices that Salazar orchestrated and facilitated.

he broke the rules wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

The USADA said Salazar "orchestrated and facilitated prohibited doping practices". What does that sound like to you?

It sounds to me like Salazar broke the rules, which he did. He gave Magness a transfusion that exceeded 50 mL, told his athletes not to disclose their transfusions, and administered testosterone to his sons. All of these are prohibited doping practices that Salazar orchestrated and facilitated.

So he "orchestrated" doping to just a couple of people? Curious choice of word by USADA if it wasn't suggesting many.

Muddler wrote:

Hope you never sit on a Jury. You added in all of that doping part on your own. USADA themselves didn't find any of his athletes doping, but somehow you did.

Read the Charging Letter. USADA did! But didn't find enough evidence for AAA.