Sifan MF Hassan just closed the 10k with a 3:59.09 1500!!! 4:17.15 last 1600!!

Aaah wrote:

Found it myself

https://m.ok.ru/video/1300166019713

Thank-you!!

It was kind of nice to see it without the commentary yammering. With the crowd in the background, it gave more of a sense of what it's like on the track, kind of surreal.

Fastnbulbous wrote:

It was kind of nice to see it without the commentary yammering. With the crowd in the background, it gave more of a sense of what it's like on the track, kind of surreal.

There was a crowd there at the stadium?

el guerroujjj wrote:

So this would be like El Guerrouj closing a 10,000 in 3:48?

I assume you mean 3:48 for the 1600 not 1500. Only 13 women have broken 4:00 in the 1500m this season.

9 seconds off the the doped up WR after already running 8500m. Nothing to see here, lets just keep burying our head in the sand when it comes to NOP.

bladerunner wrote:

Hassan has run 14:20. The first 5k was 15:32. So the race didn't really start until the last mile. She only ran 30:17. But the "journalists" who own this website just can't resist trying to implicate every single great performance as the result of doping.

You're kidding right? 14:42 last 5k is not a joke and the last 1600 was close to her PB. It's a suspicious performance for sure. Are you gonna tell me Ayana's run in 2016 was possibly clean as well? An obvious doped up performance is what that was and not a single person bought it.

Primo Numero Uno wrote:

el guerroujjj wrote:

So this would be like El Guerrouj closing a 10,000 in 3:48?

I assume you mean 3:48 for the 1600 not 1500. Only 13 women have broken 4:00 in the 1500m this season.

9 seconds off the the doped up WR after already running 8500m. Nothing to see here, lets just keep burying our head in the sand when it comes to NOP.

Yeah, just ignore the fact that the first 8500 was very slow (just barely under 31 minute pace)

Jambo Cabao wrote:

LateRunnerPhil wrote:

People here underestimate the sheer potential that runners who can drop a 65:15 half on the roads have on a track 10k. I'd say she can run 29 low, and will break the WR in a faster race eventually.

People here underestimate Alberto's sheer skill at developing his runners into world beaters at every distance!

Mo 3:28 and 59:something, and completely unbeatable!

Galen 3:50i/7:30i and 10k/marathon medals!

Hassan breaks the unbreakable dope Mile WR, 65 HM, and 10k World Champion!

Alberto knows more about coaching than anyone! He has the best workouts!

I hear JS rights the paces and Alberto holds the stop watch and rights the splits on his clipboard.

ShilohDoesntCare wrote:

bladerunner wrote:

Hassan has run 14:20. The first 5k was 15:32. So the race didn't really start until the last mile. She only ran 30:17. But the "journalists" who own this website just can't resist trying to implicate every single great performance as the result of doping.

You're kidding right? 14:42 last 5k is not a joke and the last 1600 was close to her PB. It's a suspicious performance for sure. Are you gonna tell me Ayana's run in 2016 was possibly clean as well? An obvious doped up performance is what that was and not a single person bought it.

Yeah, let's face it. Super sus(picious)! Shame. I - like many others - would like to believe what we're seeing.

ShilohDoesntCare wrote:

bladerunner wrote:

Hassan has run 14:20. The first 5k was 15:32. So the race didn't really start until the last mile. She only ran 30:17. But the "journalists" who own this website just can't resist trying to implicate every single great performance as the result of doping.

You're kidding right? 14:42 last 5k is not a joke and the last 1600 was close to her PB. It's a suspicious performance for sure. Are you gonna tell me Ayana's run in 2016 was possibly clean as well? An obvious doped up performance is what that was and not a single person bought it.

14:42 is 31 seconds off the world record. Not a big deal off a slow first 5k. Based on what she has done in the past, it's not at all suspicious. Go back and look at the Olympic men's10k final in 2004. I believe the 2nd 5k was run in sub 13 minutes (Gebrelsalsie, Sihane, and Bekele). I don't know about Ayana's run, but she ran a significantly faster time than anyone's ever run, hardly comparable to Hassan's race today.

As someone else posted, the first 5k was at Hassan's 1/2 marathon pace. hardly blistering .

Basement_Velvet_Black_Light_Poster wrote:

I hear JS rights the paces and Alberto holds the stop watch and rights the splits on his clipboard.

Well, whatever he does, he does it very well! Better than anyone else!

Equals 3:32.2 or 3:49 mile for a male, according to IAAF tables. What is the fastest men's 10000 finish in history? 3:42/4:00 for a mile?

Jzs wrote:

Raw thing wrote:

Hassan’s last 1500 was 3:59.09. Would make her 9th fastest woman this year at 1500. It’s like a guy closing in 3:31-32

No; more like 3:34.

3:32.20 (IAAF)

Jo72 wrote:

Nothing of this applies to Hassan, who started running in Holland as a teenager. She didn't need running to escape poverty, she trained/trains mostly in the Netherlands or the US, not in Africa. And she also got a WC bronze and ran 3:56 before joining NOP. She might be suspect, but it's silly to think her *more suspect* than Gidey, Tirop or Obiri.

She arrived in the Netherlands at 15. You really think she didn't run back in Ethiopia? Of all the Ethiopian refugees who made it to Europe/Netherlands from Africa, u think she just up and started running?

Don't forget that the field went out cautiously because despite the vent system, the conditions are not ideal trackside for distance running in a place where the low temperature is 85.

She's coached by Salazar and represented by Sander Ogink of Global Sports, run by Jos Hermens.

They also represent, among many others, Genzebe Dibaba, Eliud Kipchoge, Haile, Bekele, Sileshi Sihine, and Faith Kipyegon.

https://www.athleticsmanagers.com/users/32/6

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bladerunner wrote:

ShilohDoesntCare wrote:

You're kidding right? 14:42 last 5k is not a joke and the last 1600 was close to her PB. It's a suspicious performance for sure. Are you gonna tell me Ayana's run in 2016 was possibly clean as well? An obvious doped up performance is what that was and not a single person bought it.

14:42 is 31 seconds off the world record. Not a big deal off a slow first 5k. Based on what she has done in the past, it's not at all suspicious. Go back and look at the Olympic men's10k final in 2004. I believe the 2nd 5k was run in sub 13 minutes (Gebrelsalsie, Sihane, and Bekele). I don't know about Ayana's run, but she ran a significantly faster time than anyone's ever run, hardly comparable to Hassan's race today.

As someone else posted, the first 5k was at Hassan's 1/2 marathon pace. hardly blistering .

It was 14:44.8 ... it would be in comparison to a male finish over the second 5000 in 13:08 after going through the 1st 5000 in 13:57.

What a race, NOP are the best runners tactically in the business. Hassan seem pretty relaxed when Gidey made her move with a mile to go. For all the abuse they get, you gotta give NOP credit for this one

Wasn't the Oregon Project supposed to exclusively help develop American distance runners?

ncrecuvuer wrote:

Aaah wrote:

Found it myself

https://m.ok.ru/video/1300166019713

Thank-you!!

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