Interesting read and insights into his training that lead up to his 3 wins this year and CR at Sierre-Zinal:
https://mtnath.com/2019/08/31/training-and-racing-summer-2019/
Interesting read and insights into his training that lead up to his 3 wins this year and CR at Sierre-Zinal:
https://mtnath.com/2019/08/31/training-and-racing-summer-2019/
A 144 mile / 9,700m week.
I think it converts to a 136-mile week actually (if we are talking about the same week)...but that is really big volume and vert ((40,000' of climbing! and 24 hours of volume!) the week before (well the last 14 days) leading into Sierre-Zinal! I can't believe he came out so fresh on the climb there right after that (it is brutal).
S. Canaday wrote:
I think it converts to a 136-mile week actually (if we are talking about the same week)...but that is really big volume and vert ((40,000' of climbing! and 24 hours of volume!) the week before (well the last 14 days) leading into Sierre-Zinal! I can't believe he came out so fresh on the climb there right after that (it is brutal).
I think he was referring to this week:
26 25,05h 233km 9700m
233 kilometers =
144.779 miles
i think it's most interesting that after years of no real "road" training, he can do 5k intervals in 15' as a part of a larger workout
seems like he is pretty comfortable around 4:50/mi effort for decent volume interval or tempo workouts.
reed wrote:
i think it's most interesting that after years of no real "road" training, he can do 5k intervals in 15' as a part of a larger workout
seems like he is pretty comfortable around 4:50/mi effort for decent volume interval or tempo workouts.
Not surprised. Built up huge base via running up mountains. So the fitness to run fast is there.
His training from november to present.
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_t4NwKrsAKbqotxi8T4RDgsMQzI2iNA3IYMZaPf-ArU/edit#gid=494192160
Unfathomable. For any sport.
An aerobic base to pierce the heavens
I just don't understand why he apparently ran 136 miles in training (with 40,000' of climbing) the week before Sierre-Zinal?
That would absolutely flatten me (even if all done at an Easy intensity).
He obviously kicked my butt at SZ and at the Pikes Peak Marathon, but generally most runners (even top guys) "taper" a little bit 14 days out from a shorter mountain race? (SZ is only 19-miles and its not like he needed a huge base for Pikes..which was only 2 weeks later too).
I can attempt to answer, Sage. It is his lifestyle and SZ was not his peak race. He does not believe in peaking. To Kilian, the mileage is not a mental barrier. What is burdensome and much to once can be recovery and nothing to another.
S. Canaday wrote:
I just don't understand why he apparently ran 136 miles in training (with 40,000' of climbing) the week before Sierre-Zinal?
That would absolutely flatten me (even if all done at an Easy intensity).
He's probably like me, do really good off of a short taper. For marathons for example, I like to have my highest volume week the week before my marathon. Also there was a thread last week(can't seem to find it now) showing a study where the shorter tapers were better.
found the thread, it links to the study.
https://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?board=1&id=9569006&thread=9569006#9569006
It's because he isn't peaking yet. He doesn't need to. He's got bigger fish to fry.
He probably thinks the rest of y'all in the MUT scene are a bunch of slackers but is too humble to say it.
only need a 6-7 day taper wrote:
S. Canaday wrote:
I just don't understand why he apparently ran 136 miles in training (with 40,000' of climbing) the week before Sierre-Zinal?
That would absolutely flatten me (even if all done at an Easy intensity).
He's probably like me, do really good off of a short taper. For marathons for example, I like to have my highest volume week the week before my marathon. Also there was a thread last week(can't seem to find it now) showing a study where the shorter tapers were better.
That's me too - and most especially (relatively) shorter races such as S-Z where I believe retaining the muscle memory of fast turnover running is important. Too much rest = legs that are too 'loosy-goosy' (vs sharp). It's just a different strokes for different folks thing.
Well yeah i was only running 70-80 miles a week (I'm running much better off that mileage than off of 110 miles a week ) training for these races. I've done the 140-150mile weeks but they tend to make me super tired. 40k of vert is a crap ton and it takes a long time (hence his 24 hours of training the week before Sierre-Zinal). But fair enough, he beat me by 12 minutes at Sierre-Zinal and 11 minutes at the Pikes Peak Marathon. Yeah, we all got crushed by Kilian at Pikes... HOWEVER, if Kilian wasn't "peaking" (or having a race focus) for events like Sierre-Zinal or Pikes Peak then what is he peaking for? The Golden Trail Series race in Nepal? Probably not. Last year he dropped out of the final at the Otter Trail Race. He hasn't raced that much this year compared to other years so he could focus on these records/events....
Cb wrote:
It's because he isn't peaking yet. He doesn't need to. He's got bigger fish to fry.
He probably thinks the rest of y'all in the MUT scene are a bunch of slackers but is too humble to say it.
And I'm sorry but no decently good/fast runner has their "highest volume week" the week before racing a marathon (esp on the roads). Are you running 130+ miles a week with 40k of vert? I mean at Hansons we tapered "a little" (aka I was still doing 100mpw 2 weeks before a marathon and maybe 70-80mpw the week of the race)...but not peak high mileage 14 days out certainly. Maybe 3-4 weeks out....
Just Another Run of the Mill ex-D1 er wrote:
only need a 6-7 day taper wrote:
He's probably like me, do really good off of a short taper. For marathons for example, I like to have my highest volume week the week before my marathon. Also there was a thread last week(can't seem to find it now) showing a study where the shorter tapers were better.
That's me too - and most especially (relatively) shorter races such as S-Z where I believe retaining the muscle memory of fast turnover running is important. Too much rest = legs that are too 'loosy-goosy' (vs sharp). It's just a different strokes for different folks thing.
Maybe his log is fake just like his Everest speed ascents.
Killian has said races are just play and not really that important. If he has nice weather, he will go run up and down a mountain the day before because that is what he enjoys.
Years ago he decided to see how long his body could go without eating. Training 3 to 4 hours a day, he made it 5 days before collapsing.
He is now experimenting with doing 20 hour runs without eating anything. He already knows it is sustainable to run purely off body fat for that long but how slow of pace will it require.
He has averaged over 20 hours a week training for years.
Just to make note. The Salomon team manager was caught doping when he was a mountain biker. If it seems too good to be true, it probably is.
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