Donavan Brazier 1:42:70!!!!

Great controlled run by Brazier. Absolutely kept his cool, and let the headless chickens in front of him run themselves into the lactic lake. And what a finish. Like a scythe through the field. Amos ran a 700m race. Unfortunately for him, it was an 800m event. What judgment. Not. He needs the ped's that worked so well for him as an 18 year old. Strange age to peak.

klubkip1 wrote:

One the strengths Amos has is his viper like kick in the last 100 m. He had not raced for a month so not surprising he tied up off such a fast pace. Amazing splits though from Nigel. 48.4 at 400 m and 1.14.4 at 600 m even 135.0 at 750 m. Rudisha for his 1.40.91 WR was 49.28 and 1.14.3. The great Kipketer for his 1.41.11 WR was 49.3 and 1.14.6. Both 26.5 last 200 m. Nigel was 28.5 last 200 m having not raced for 5 weeks so with another race or 2 that can become 26,5 as well. No more races left on the calendar though until Doha unfortunately.

Amos "viper-like kick"? How about, mastering the art of running backwards?

Armstronglivs wrote:

He needs the ped's that worked so well for him as an 18 year old. Strange age to peak.

Lmao so you’re saying an 800m runner peaked 7 years before setting his 400m PR?

Watch out for Nick Symmonds. Norman is going down in Tokyo.

Armstronglivs wrote:

Great controlled run by Brazier. Absolutely kept his cool, and let the headless chickens in front of him run themselves into the lactic lake. And what a finish. Like a scythe through the field. Amos ran a 700m race. Unfortunately for him, it was an 800m event. What judgment. Not. He needs the ped's that worked so well for him as an 18 year old. Strange age to peak.

well at least with amos he is always dead beat no matter what.....unlike some other runners who run incredible times, dont break a sweat and walk around after the finish like they are just warming up. and its funny how some people claimed his "18" was fake. 7 yrs ago he ran a super fast time, and now does it again. if he was an age cheat and say he was 23, now he is 30?

like what is the oldest 1:41-1:42 low? if amos age cheated then he is super amazing, my guess if his age isnt totally correct its only off a year or so.

Which Rosa athlete Amos will show in Doha? The one who got silver in London '12 or the one who washed out in the semis in '16 or was 5th in '17?

As far as "viper-like kick", yeah I recently ran over a rattlesnake by accident and in the rear-view mirror could see it writhing just like Amos in Zurich.

Yes, these are the official splits and they show that your video reconstructions aren't as accurate as you often claim.

1 BRAZIER Donavan USA 1:42.70 PB

13.0 (8) 25.2 (8) 37.6 (8) 50.8 (8) 1:04.1 (7) 1:17.0 (6) 1:30.0 (3)

25.2/25.6=50.8//26.2/25.7=51.9

Here are the full splits:

1 BRAZIER Donavan USA 1:42.70 PB

13.0 (8) 25.2 (8) 37.6 (8) 50.8 (8) 1:04.1 (7) 1:17.0 (6) 1:30.0 (3)

2 AMOS Nijel BOT 1:42.98 0.28

12.2 (2) 23.6 (2) 35.9 (2) 48.4 (2) 1:01.5 (1) 1:14.5 (1) 1:28.0 (1)

3 McBRIDE Brandon CAN 1:43.51 0.81 SB

12.4 (3) 23.8 (4) 36.4 (5) 49.5 (6) 1:02.8 (5) 1:16.2 (5) 1:30.1 (5)

4 KORIR Emmanuel Kipkurui KEN 1:43.69 0.99 SB

12.5 (6) 23.7 (3) 36.1 (3) 48.8 (3) 1:01.9 (2) 1:15.2 (2) 1:29.0 (2)

5 MURPHY Clayton USA 1:43.94 1.24 SB

12.7 (7) 24.6 (7) 37.3 (7) 50.6 (7) 1:04.1 (6) 1:17.5 (8) 1:30.8 (8)

6 TUKA Amel BIH 1:43.99 1.29

13.2 (9) 25.5 (9) 38.0 (9) 51.0 (9) 1:04.4 (8) 1:17.4 (7) 1:30.6 (7)

7 ROTICH Ferguson Cheruiyot KEN 1:45.28 2.58

12.5 (5) 23.8 (5) 36.3 (4) 49.3 (4) 1:02.5 (4) 1:16.0 (3) 1:30.1 (4)

8 KINYAMAL Wyclife KEN 1:47.59 4.89

12.4 (4) 24.0 (6) 36.5 (6) 49.4 (5) 1:02.5 (3) 1:16.1 (4) 1:30.3 (6)

ABDA Harun USA DNF

12.2 (1) 23.4 (1) 35.6 (1) 48.3 (1)

dadsfadsfdasfdsafdas wrote:

VIPAM wrote:

Really guy...you do realize Amos has already run 1:41 this year?!

Must have missed it. I saw him run a 1:41:89 which is a 1:42 to anyone with who understands rounding.

You’re retarded ??? I feel like you have to be joking lol

Armstronglivs wrote:

Great controlled run by Brazier. Absolutely kept his cool, and let the headless chickens in front of him run themselves into the lactic lake. And what a finish. Like a scythe through the field. Amos ran a 700m race. Unfortunately for him, it was an 800m event. What judgment. Not. He needs the ped's that worked so well for him as an 18 year old. Strange age to peak.

The even pace guy in Olympic or World Championship final sometimes is lucky that the aggressive guys fall apart. It has happened a few times in Olympics and W.C. Usually, the close to even pace guy gets third or fourth place. Billy Konchella raced close to an even pace in 1984 Olympics 800m final for 4th. Nick Symmonds raced the closest to an even pace in 2012 Olympics 800m final for 4th. The even pace 800m runner in Olympics and W.C. has to run a lot of extra metres. There will be no rabbit in 2019 W.C. 800m final. Amos will not burn up and race sub-49 first 400m in W.C. 800m final. If Amos is slower than 49.00, he will not fall apart over the final 200m.

TheGOAT wrote:

He's BACK BABY!!!

Donavan Brazier 1:42:70!!!!

No he is not The Goat. He is not necessarily the best of his own era let alone

the best of all time.

Rodisha, Ryun, Wottle, Coe, etc., deserve consideration.

Let's not forget the pioneers.

Even pace guys always run extra metres? What about some of the guys who take off too fast and run

extra metres while running most of the first lap in the second and third lanes. You could be right in some

cases, but the goal is to run along the rail in the first lap, that has to save you a few steps.

I am glad you brought it up, but it's the first time I've heard this.

Exciting!

Scorpion_runner wrote:

Brazier has become a master tactical runner at the age of 22. It's insane. Anybody else would have panicked, and murphy looked like he panicked a little when they gap got big, but Brazier stayed in the back, calm and cool.

He knew that pace was cooked, and still ran 1:42 from the back!

And Brazier is known for running up front.

He is going to win 800m, because Amos and Korir are not smart. They have the speed to win straight out, but Brazier has the speed and tactics to win any kind of race.

Murphy has regressed, tremendously. Had yet to really recovery from that injury, and he just does not look confident.

How about we not proclaim a guy a master tacticion until he's proven he can do it over many, many races, year after year ala Centro?

Brazier had screwed the pooch many times tactically before.

Here's hoping he does become a master tacticion!

It was a beautiful thing to watch. Congrats to him.

John Wesley Harding wrote:

Random stats. # of career sub-1:43s—2nd number is the # of different seasons they ran sub-1:43. In the event of ties I ordered them by PB. Everyone who’s done it 3+ times:

1. Kipketer 21/5

2. Rudisha 16/6

3. Amos 6/5

4. Cruz 6/2

5. Bucher 4/2

6. Gray 4/4

7. Kimutai 4/2

8. Bungei 3/3

9. Aman 3/3

When I saw this I had to look at Seb Coe's IAAF profile.

He only ran under 1:43 twice and one was a 1:41? Wow

Sarcasam?

Fact: You have never raced 800m, T&F.

You most likely never participated in T&F.

I know for a fact you have never coached T&F.

Even pace 800m gals/guys ALWAYS run extra metres. That is not a topic open for debate.

Are you doubting that Brazier raced extra metres in compared to Amos?

If Amos races first 200m a bit slower than 24.00 seconds and if Amos races first 400m in 48.90 to 49.3 range, Brazier will not beat Amos if Brazier hopes and prays for Amos to race slower than 26 over the final 200m

I'd agree overly optimistic early pacing cost Amos this race.

800m can be approached with differing pacing strategies, and records and wins are posted with each.

But safe to say the approach almost always used and successful is to positive split. This is no accident and speaks to physiology.

Brazier busting through the pack for the win was great entertainment, but he probably ran a sub-optimal result.

The finish photo tells the tale - he is just way too relaxed. That is not the face of guy who left it all on the track. Brazier could have taken down the AR with a gutsier or different race.

Like Dave Wottle revisited. His splits were probably fairly even--it is just that the field came back to him.

1:42.4 and 1:41.7