Full D1 skolly chance?

I was 1:55/4:20 out of Hs and got a very small scholarship at a struggling mid major D1, but later got increased after I improved to 1:49/3:46. We started getting a slew of 4:25/9:35 guys to walk on and we actually became a pretty decent program in our conference. So you would be a walk on mid major runner(maybe books) at this point, but like me If you work hard and improve most schools will put you on a lil money to reward you! Hope that helps

Honesty is good wrote:

Some honesty here to contrast the idiot in the other thread claiming to get interest from every school in the country with a 9:12. 4:20/9:20 is baseline walk-on. Scholarships start at 9:10/4:12 for P5 but require 9:00/4:09 to get anything significant.

Yeah, but at least "No Reply's" times are good enough to at least walk-on pretty much everywhere. If he is really getting no-joy from D1 programs come October, he needs to get back on this board and start asking for help.

Hermes link wrote:

I was 1:55/4:20 out of Hs and got a very small scholarship at a struggling mid major D1, but later got increased after I improved to 1:49/3:46. We started getting a slew of 4:25/9:35 guys to walk on and we actually became a pretty decent program in our conference. So you would be a walk on mid major runner(maybe books) at this point, but like me If you work hard and improve most schools will put you on a lil money to reward you! Hope that helps

A lot of walk-ons and even recruited athletes work really hard and don't improve and just burnout and quit like me. The problem is, we all probably tend to work "too hard" in college. The coaches intentionally and unintentionally play mind games with you to motivate you, so we all bust our butts in practice to get even the smallest bit of acknowledgement or recognition, which is a sure-fire way to overtrain.

Best you can hope for is free books - and you need them.

Pretty much no chance. You are a male track/xc athlete. Unless you can single handedly bring home the NCAA title, expect books with a chance to earn more with performance. No way I'd waste a full scholarship on an unproven freshman that's likely to quit or already be maxed out by the time they get to me.

428-932-1604 wrote:

Sorry about using skolly. That's what everyone calls is where I go to school. Wow, I have to say that I'm proud of my SAT so those comments are harsh. I'm not the smartest around but I try hard. My times are also pretty good so I think some here are just jabbing me.

I'll look at NAU and Portland. Distance only school is fine with me. I don't need sprinters. I'd likely get better training too. So thanks.

They really aren't that great. Just because you are good where you are doesn't mean you stack up nationally. BTW, nobody cares if you try hard. That's the problem with today's kids, they think effort = achievement, and that's just not the case. You should have tried proof reading that second sentence too. This place is know for it Grammar National Socialists.

My top runner last season got a full ride to what LRC would term a bottom tier DI program with his 4:24/9:37/15:17, he was a great XC/Steeple guy. It was the only full offered and he accepted (1 of 2 local DI's in the area).

Good luck.

formerD1 wrote:

I find it extremely difficult to believe that D1 schools are not interested in you with your times, unless you are targeting the very best schools AND demanding scholarship money. It's still early though so you have a lot of time. I started getting a flood of letters and calls during my XC season my senior year.

They aren't. 4:28 is good, but its not a D1 time anymore. You could walk on with those times maybe, but no Big 10 or 12 or Pac school is going to actively recruit a 4:28 or 16 flat guy without some serious other factors (like its their first year running and their school has notoriously bad training.) These times would make him a good D2 recruit, and he might even get a small scholarship there. Don't fall into the trap of "D1 or bust". Lots of kids want D1 because its a flex, but tbh no one is impressed by a D1 athlete who gets chewed up and spit out after a season.

+1 Had the same thing happen to me. Quit after pulling my hamstring indoors in practice pre conferences and losing my outdoor season after 2 attempts to make a comeback.

I really hope these are mile-2mile-5k times.

If they are 1500-3000-3mile you're straight outta luck bud.

428-932-1604 wrote:

My times are also pretty good so I think some here are just jabbing me.

I'll look at NAU and Portland. Distance only school is fine with me. I don't need sprinters. I'd likely get better training too. So thanks.

They are good times but not d1 scholarship times. You should really look into the programs walk-on criteria, especially if you are looking at distance specialized schools, because NAU has a walk-on minimum of 4:20 and 9:20. ^Miles is barking up the right tree with D2. It might seem like it in hs, but honestly no one really cares about what division youre in if you don't win. If youre trying to impress people back home or so you can brag that youre d1, then your doing it for the wrong reasons and youre gunna have a bad time, mkay?

Not real unless you identify the college so we can send our athletes there. You won't because it is not true.

Sorry about using skolly.

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In the biz we're told to refer to it as a grant-in-aid. It's renewable and it's usually a percentage number unless we want you without reservations on our part. Yes we do give full rides to people who are good now but also project well. And it isn't just about track times.

A student who has a good CC record... we often get by the lousy track times if they have a good body and just haven't got used to great leg turnover yet. Not doing a lot of work on the track, instead just of just strength training. It's understandable and we look at that.

There are no true 100% track scholarships. Even idiots who are very fast are typically eligible for some type of need based aid. And for the very rare track athlete who is not eligible for academic or need based aid, a 90% scholarship will more than cover all expenses. Thee ciach would be the idiot in that scenario if they provided a 100% scholarship because the kid doesn't know the difference.

Knowing only what you wrote here are my thoughts on your chances - - -

Know in advance that your times are borderline for making a college team. Also know, just because you are "faster" or "as fast" as someone listed on the current roster does not mean that there is a scholarship or even a slot on the team for you. All men's teams have limited roster spots. Many college kids might have strengths that you do not have that don't show up on a little team bio. Your 9:32 may be faster than someone's 9:35 but that does not automatically give you a spot on that team or even make you better than that person.

With those statements, you ability indicates you have a chance to find a good school, with a fairly good program that may want you. the chances for Portland and NAU as listed above seem like a very long long-shot, but it it them not me that need to decide that.

First, Increase you chances of receiving interest from a university or interest back by a) registering for the NCAA Clearinghouse, b) learning a little about the academic programs that may interest you at that school, and c) NOT asking for anything more than "Would you be interested in a student / athlete like me?" Coaches get turned off with the talk of, "How much scholarship money wouldI qualify for?"

Second, chose schools that you would really like to attend, that you feel like you could fit in at and that you could contribute to. Once you find those schools, apply! Telling a coach that you've applied and have received admittance goes a long way in showing the you are interested. Note: applications take both money and time.

Third, don't be put off or turned away if the coach asks you to visit on your own (unofficial) or if you'd be willing to walk on with the understanding that if you improve you may earn some financial assistance in the future.

I encourage you to shoot for your dreams of running DI. Please understand that many schools/coaches may turn you down, but you can find a good opportunity to run in college. Be proactive, honest, and determined.

80% wrote:

There are no true 100% track scholarships. Even idiots who are very fast are typically eligible for some type of need based aid. And for the very rare track athlete who is not eligible for academic or need based aid, a 90% scholarship will more than cover all expenses. Thee ciach would be the idiot in that scenario if they provided a 100% scholarship because the kid doesn't know the difference.

Incorrect. A 90% scholarship covers 90% of tuition, room, board, and book costs. A student on 90% scholarship must come up with money for 10% of these costs. Are there ways to make the money go further? Sometimes a student can get used books, doesn't need many books, or could eat cheaper, thus stretching the money or maybe covering more of their costs. In particular food sold on campus is usually overpriced as are new books. After all this, there are still basic expenses associated with being a young person in ones teens or early 20s though like clothes, entertainment, car upkeep, etc.

Maybe at a low tier D1.

Nope.

This is the listed cost for Oregon. A 90% scholarship covers Tuition, Books, Fees, and Room and Board. The Other category of $2,356 is about 10%. So a 90% scholarship covers Tuition, Books, Room and Board, and estimated fees of $2,076 which usually are less so the student already will get more than all costs covered with a 90% scholarship. Only football and basketball provide 100% scholarships unless the track coach is a moron and wants to cover $2,356 of beer.

$26,862

Tuition $9,855

Books and Supplies $1,125

Other Fees $2,076

Room and Board $11,450

Other Expenses Budget $2,356

Do athletes invited to walk on receive the same team perks as the scholarship athletes? Nutrition - trainers - facility access - shoes - gear etc?

Do some D1 schools who aren’t fully funded not provide equipment (training shoes -spikes) or does the partial funding only apply to scholarships.