Yikes. Tinman moving to Boulder sounds like a disaster. The group seems to be thriving because they're a bunch of young guys doing it together without a coach there watching them.
If you think Drew;s form will drastically inform in eight weeks you're out of your mind. If his forms changes that much over such a short period of time he'll likely get injured. Similar thing happened with Webb and Ritz when Salazar tried to change their from.
zxalscnkdjvbwkj wrote:
Yikes. Tinman moving to Boulder sounds like a disaster. The group seems to be thriving because they're a bunch of young guys doing it together without a coach there watching them.
If you think Drew;s form will drastically inform in eight weeks you're out of your mind. If his forms changes that much over such a short period of time he'll likely get injured. Similar thing happened with Webb and Ritz when Salazar tried to change their from.
Ritz got injured because he was fragile. You'd be surprised how fragile many super-talented runners are. Much easier to have someone like Solinsky who wasn't a natural talent (first 5k 19:30) but you could let him run ANYTHING and he would be completely immune to any kind of damage or fatigue. Solinsky was just pounding, pounding, pounding, 100+ mpw at sub 6 pace with crazy workouts and kept doing this for 10 years. You could have put on a 60 lbs vest on him and he still wouldn't feel a damn thing while running. If he wouldn't have ripped his hamstring by tripping over his dog I wonder how long he would have been able to keep going like that.
Anyway, it's extremely easy to improve Drew's form from a neuromuscular point of view. What takes time is adjusting his muscles, tendons etc to proper biomechanics and a new form of running. But it might not even be necessary, I think just working neuromuscular with the right form drills can help him dramatically in the short-term.
He should also work with a certified strength/core coach to work on that. Drew used to do all these things in HS, he was actually one of the runners focusing on all the little things. But on a world-class level he needs more experts to support and coach him, or he will never be able to close the gap to NOP and BTC athletes that have all of this stuff available to them 24/7.
LateRunnerPhil wrote:
Anyway, it's extremely easy to improve Drew's form from a neuromuscular point of view. What takes time is adjusting his muscles, tendons etc to proper biomechanics and a new form of running. But it might not even be necessary, I think just working neuromuscular with the right form drills can help him dramatically in the short-term.
I have noticed that tons of runners talk about improving their form. Pretty much none of them show significant improvements in times. A lot look prettier but they are no faster/use less oxygen at the same pace.
Tinman Elite do work with a strength coach. Clee Performance. They're in the gym at least twice a week. When you've been running a certain way for your entire running career it is NOT easy to change form in a short period. Especially if you're already doing stuff in the gym geared towards this. It is extra risky to do so before his first major global championship.
Re-watching the race, Hunter was right there with 200 to go. The top guys blew his doors off. They put almost four seconds on him in the last 200. His last 200 was
. Even Kincaid and Mead destroyed him in the last 100 meters.
kdwjbfwbv wrote:
Tinman Elite do work with a strength coach. Clee Performance. They're in the gym at least twice a week. When you've been running a certain way for your entire running career it is NOT easy to change form in a short period. Especially if you're already doing stuff in the gym geared towards this. It is extra risky to do so before his first major global championship.
Re-watching the race, Hunter was right there with 200 to go. The top guys blew his doors off. They put almost four seconds on him in the last 200. His last 200 was
28.high/29.low. Even Kincaid and Mead destroyed him in the last 100 meters.
Independent of form, yes. Hunter never had the raw speed, in HS he had 51s 400m speed as Jr while Fisher had 48s as senior. He managed to beat Fisher in two consecutive races by kicking fairly early, around 500-600m out, knowing that Fisher would just wait until the last 150 or something and then just explode and destroy him.
That's why Tinman often referred to Hunter as "not that much talented", which is the wrong term to use in fact he means Hunter doesn't have the same raw speed that other elite milers/5k runners have.
Thing is beating Grant Fisher in a HS race is one thing, but in an elite race with consistently high pace he can't just drop down the hammer 400-600m out. Actually he tried it during the trials, he tried to make a move early and not let it get down to the last 100-200m but he couldn't drop the others. Never expect Hunter to do much on the last 100-200, he is more like KoKo as a runner and not a Muir/Houlihan.
Hunter was injured and couldn't close.
Broke a bone and tore ligaments in one of his feet.