Concealed Carry Runners: What are you packing?

fisky wrote:

FreedomLover357 wrote:

I prefer the Public Defender because it snags less in my belt and I do a lot of running at night so I think I would probably need to rely on the spread of the .410 shells versus precision shooting. Especially in a running situation where my heart is already elevated and I may not have time to aim appropriately.

You might want to rethink that. Most firefights are within 10 feet. The point method should get the job done at that distance. You can practice with a laser cartridge to confirm this.

If your target is more than 15m away, you open yourself up to legal action because there is no immediate danger to self.

You should look into the Sig Sauer P938 w/laser or P365 w/laser... each around $700. Lighter, more rounds, and laser sighting allows for point and shoot firing with accuracy.

How many firefights have you been in during a run?

I really don't remember a male runner being assaulted during a run. The north of $2000 guy said he also carried "funds" so that must mean he makes a deposit at the bank during his runs?

Grenio wrote:

I've found that no one will even approach - let alone lay hands on - a public defecator. So that's what I'm packing.

"Hey skinny, give me your iPho- whoa! WHOA!" Works every time.

How many times has this happened to you?

SDSU Aztec wrote:

The north of $2000 guy said he also carried "funds" so that must mean he makes a deposit at the bank during his runs?

Do you ever get outside of your gated community? I run in a city. I run to work. Sometimes there are these things called "stores" which accept funds which I may want to stop at. I can't believe the non-trolling people in this thread who claim to run with no techonology, penniless, and naked?

Concealed carry is the way to go. I used to run while open-carrying an AR-15. I was never attacked, but, man, it was hard to get more than a mile in without some cop shouting at me to lie on the ground with my hands behind my head.

FreedomLover357 wrote:

SDSU Aztec wrote:

The north of $2000 guy said he also carried "funds" so that must mean he makes a deposit at the bank during his runs?

Do you ever get outside of your gated community? I run in a city. I run to work. Sometimes there are these things called "stores" which accept funds which I may want to stop at. I can't believe the non-trolling people in this thread who claim to run with no techonology, penniless, and naked?

There are also these things called credit cards. I run in a city, all the time through housing projects, industrial wastelands...I take a running watch, $30 mp3 player, plastic bag with $10 and a cc.

Anyway, if you can see out past your Rambo fantasy, what do you think is going to happen? "Uh, excuse me, sir, I plan to assault you. Please make any preparations you need to make, and when you're ready we'll begin." Most likely nothing will ever happen to you. If something did (but it won't), you'd probably get jumped...as in, didn't see it coming...and they'll also steal your gun. Or they don't and what?...you shoot them as they're running away? Or just shoot them while they're unarmed? Or you think that stopping, taking out your gun, and waving it around is going to turn out better than if you just keep running away from the situation? It don't make no sense, bro.

Grenio wrote:

I've found that no one will even approach - let alone lay hands on - a public defecator. So that's what I'm packing.

"Hey skinny, give me your iPho- whoa! WHOA!" Works every time.

Things that never happened for 200, Alex

FreedomLover357 wrote:

don't be silly, man wrote:

3. You get robbed/mugged

If you are out for a run then none of those things apply. Robbed? What do they want from you? Your 2" split shorts?

You don't have a phone or Garmin watch? You don't have expensive running shoes? Airpods? Runners carry stuff worth stealing, which was my original point.

A quick Google search would prove that runners, male runners, get mugged with regularity. Maybe we won't get raped like female runners. We might get shot.

My answers:

1. Garmin watch - I would say 99% of the retards who would "jump" you don't know what a garmin watch is. On top of that, my plastic and rubber Garmin is about $100. Not exactly what homies in the hood would consider swag. In fact, if they looked at my watch I doubt any of them would even want to wear it if I gave it to them. Do you see a lot of homies wearing garmins around? Garmin watches don't' have any cred or swag factor. They are not Air Jordans. And sweaty running shoes are not Air Jordans either. Get real, man.

2. AirPods - I usually don't wear them, but I guess that would be something that they would take. So give it to them if it comes to that and they have a gun in your face. Would you get into a gunfight over $150 airpods?

3. A quick google search shows me that runners get mugged about as often as they get struck by lightening. Runners don't get shot for no reason. That's my whole point. Men only get attacked for three reasons and none of them apply when you are on a run.

The Mooch wrote:

Grenio wrote:

I've found that no one will even approach - let alone lay hands on - a public defecator. So that's what I'm packing.

"Hey skinny, give me your iPho- whoa! WHOA!" Works every time.

How many times has this happened to you?

It's hard to say. I'm generally very nervous, so it's possible I've deployed this tactic on a number of occasions when I didn't have to. Better safe than sorry, though.

FreedomLover357 wrote:

SDSU Aztec wrote:

The north of $2000 guy said he also carried "funds" so that must mean he makes a deposit at the bank during his runs?

Do you ever get outside of your gated community? I run in a city. I run to work. Sometimes there are these things called "stores" which accept funds which I may want to stop at. I can't believe the non-trolling people in this thread who claim to run with no techonology, penniless, and naked?

I don't go shopping on my runs. Call me crazy.

tempo run to Nordies wrote:

I don't go shopping on my runs. Call me crazy.

You're obviously not doing it right.

SDSU Aztec wrote:

So, what's the threat? People aren't likely to think you're carrying money and assuming your a guy, sexual assaul isn't going to happen.

FreedomLover357 wrote:

SDSU Aztec wrote:

So, what's the threat? People aren't likely to think you're carrying money and assuming your a guy, sexual assaul isn't going to happen.

I carry my smart phone, smart watch, running shoes, ear buds, and sometimes some funds while I run. Probably approaching north of $2k in apparel. If someone is willing to knock someone over for $25 shoes, I think it's short-sighted to assume all of us vulnerable runners, running alone, aren't prime targets for robbery.

2k worth of gear is LUDICROUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHY?!!!!! Is this what hobby jogging has come to?????????? there are only 4 things you need for running: a pair of running shoes, socks (optional), Shorts and Tshirt!

That is ALL!

Ludicrous!!! wrote:

FreedomLover357 wrote:

I carry my smart phone, smart watch, running shoes, ear buds, and sometimes some funds while I run. Probably approaching north of $2k in apparel. If someone is willing to knock someone over for $25 shoes, I think it's short-sighted to assume all of us vulnerable runners, running alone, aren't prime targets for robbery.

2k worth of gear is LUDICROUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHY?!!!!! Is this what hobby jogging has come to?????????? there are only 4 things you need for running: a pair of running shoes, socks (optional), Shorts and Tshirt!

That is ALL!

Wrong!

Running with a shirt on, you're just asking to get robbed.

I run bare-chested. I'm so sweaty, I'm like a greased pig. No one would try to grab me, and if they tried, they would fail. Also I keep my hair very short...can't grab me there either. Shorts? Two-inch split inseam. Not much purchases.

On average only 5% of police officers have to report the use of a firearm while on duty in their entire career, should they not carry firearms at all? The use of the lightning analogy has always been ridiculous because it's an event that you can't prevent without simply being in another area, you're basically saying that I should just move to an area that's safer, some people don't have the luxury buddy. The park near me is extremely popular for runners and in these summer months robberies go up...yes male runners get robbed all the time. I don't carry or own a gun, even if I owned a gun I wouldn't take it on a run but I'm a big guy so there's a much smaller risk for me. Some of the guys on here are probably 5'5" 130 pounds, easy target. I don't see why people get all uptight and try to argue. You're not going to convince anyone especially not with weak arguments. Let people be, if they want to do ridiculous things that's none of my business.

Rod Johnson, Esq. wrote:

Ludicrous!!! wrote:

2k worth of gear is LUDICROUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHY?!!!!! Is this what hobby jogging has come to?????????? there are only 4 things you need for running: a pair of running shoes, socks (optional), Shorts and Tshirt!

That is ALL!

Wrong!

Running with a shirt on, you're just asking to get robbed.

I run bare-chested. I'm so sweaty, I'm like a greased pig. No one would try to grab me, and if they tried, they would fail. Also I keep my hair very short...can't grab me there either. Shorts? Two-inch split inseam. Not much purchases.

True, I usually opt for no shirt in the summer and two-inch splits are the obvious only option.

SDSU Aztec wrote:

So, what's the threat? People aren't likely to think you're carrying money and assuming your a guy, sexual assaul isn't going to happen.

Unless you run near Jamin's place.

it is your business when you get shot by him trying to play rambo.

Did you read the part where he said he carries the 410 for the spread because he probably won't have time to aim?

if you are in a public place and don't have barrel control but are willing to shoot anyway......you shouldn't have a gun.

101% chance you are trolling.

if you are worried about muggings, don't carry 2k od stuff to get mugged. more like 2.5 k with the gun, because the most likely result is you will lose that to. not too many muggers give you time to stop your running and fumble around with your conceal carry.

carry $150 or less of stuff and pepper spray and you're good. I carry $0, and it's not because I'm worried about mugging. No one needs all that crap.

or be a 2k carrying moran with a gun and whine about it.

Doozyofatwosie wrote:

On average only 5% of police officers have to report the use of a firearm while on duty in their entire career, should they not carry firearms at all?

It's obvious that you have never been in LEO or know someone who has. Anytime an officer (or officers) make a felony stop they have their weapons drawn. That is SOP. It doesn't mean that they have discharged their firearm but that their firearm was used in contacting the subject.

I run the same way I ran in college, except slower. Much slooowwwer! That means I'm wearing only the basic running attire. No phones, credit/debit cards, music device, or even a Garmin or other high tech gizmo. It's just me.....out on a run.....shorts and T-shirts when it's warm, sweats and other cheap crap when it's cold.