Where are the elite Usa Men doin Euro 5k's in Late July?

Add Matt Tegenkamp to the list, he ran a 3:39 1500 pr in Europe a few days ago, and I know now is entered in the Heusden-Zolder 5k! What about Edward Moran? He hasn't raced in Europe so far, so maybe not. Also is Bolota Asmerom doing anything, he ran a 8:07 3k in Cork on July 2nd.

i can't recall where off the top of my head, but i remember reading that torres is planning on doing a 10k finally. it was an interview with either him or wetmore and they were saying that with the disappointment of not making the u.s. team for worlds, they decided to go after a good time and guaranteed pr in the event.

The only 10k I can think of is the Brussels 10k but that would be too fast for him. I'm sure there are some around for low 28 times for him, I believe Rupp is gonna do one since he heard the junior 6 mile record is superior to his 10k time

Anybody got info on Torres 10k?

Give Torres a little more credit. With a early season 13:20-2 PB he should be looking to run in the 27'35-27'45 range.

You guys tend to be a little 5k ignorant.

13:20 = 28:02.

I can not find one comparison chart that shows a 13:20 under 28 minutes.

McMillan spits out 27:42 for 13:20.

Well, I figure that late into the season he could possibly improve upon his early season time by 2-4 seconds. Everything I've read about his training also suggests that a Lydiard type of system is used so it would not be unrealistic to think that he'd perform better at 10,000m.

(13'18 x 2) + 60" => 27'36

IAAF scoring tables have 13:20.02 = 27:54.24

But you're right that the only a poorly trained

27:40 10k runner would have a 13:20 5k pr.

Use Iaaf scoring tables, it's most accurate, and I think Torres would run very well at 10k, considering he's not too fast in 3k but is fast in 5k so maybe has tons of endurance. Anyways he ran 13:20 so lets say he's in 13:15 shape and in his first 10k he could run up to 13:55 pace, so at MAX probably 27:50 but that time might be too slow for Brussels I believe, where are the other 10k's?

Uh, forget that .....you'd expect a 13:20 5k would be about 27:40....28:00 would be a poorly trained 13:20 5k runner.

That is to say, I'm agreeing with Pescado: 2*5k + 60 is a good estimator for a 10k specialist's relative 5k/10k times

Yea, for the world class 5k/10k runner the difference is 30-35 seconds between 5k pace and 5k pace in a 10k. But Jorge Torres is a little slower and will be in his first true track 10k, so I prefer a conservative estimate.

That was the same kind of logic that predicted Kennedy was going to run sub 2:10 in his marathon debut.

How does my prediction have anything to do with Kennedy?

S.Austin 13.22/27.53, B.Scott 13.23/27.46, A.Lloyd 13.24/27.57, S.Moneghetti 13.25/27.47, G.Barrett 13.23/27.50. Fairly typical conversion of 2x5km plus 1min.

Texas Jack is a pitiaby stupid idiot. Don't listen to him.