Allie O goes pro

In 2015 Courtney Frerichs finished 2nd in the NCAAs with a 9:31.26. In 2018 she set the American record in 9:00.85. Allie O. just ran 9:31.44 at Pre, so what could she be capable of in 3 years?

Sally Vix wrote:

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.idahostatesman.com/sports/college/mountain-west/boise-state-university/article232190757.html

I wish her the best but her PR is about 50 seconds behind the WR. Would you be encouraging an 8:45 male steepler to go pro? She is basically the equivalent of an 8:45 steepler who would be gobbled up at NCAAs. Why should we be celebrating her going pro?

Gobbled up at NCAA's ? She is close to top 10 All-Time list in the NCAA for the steeple, the 3k, the 5k, the 10k and in the top 8 every year in XC......what are you even talking about?

She's about as fast as many other successful pros were when they graduated. Her next goal is to try to make the Olympics, so whichever path seems to make that outcome the most likely would seem to be the smart choice. It seems like the choice was mainly about trying to make the Olympic team, which doesn't seem like an unreasonable plan.

steeple people wrote:

In 2015 Courtney Frerichs finished 2nd in the NCAAs with a 9:31.26. In 2018 she set the American record in 9:00.85. Allie O. just ran 9:31.44 at Pre, so what could she be capable of in 3 years?

Good point. Frerichs was still very new to the event, if I recall or more of on the breakout curve, and relatively newer to running.

That said, still think AllieO's top performances will be in longer events and on the roads. But either way, good for her and hope it all goes great.

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

Dert wrote:

Old news. Already posted. Do a search before posting.

Not true. Do a search, rumor not fact Dweeb, I mean Dert.

Someone offers you constructive criticism and you reply with an insult. Your self-image must really be in the dumps.

She will get only a small stipend at this point. Just because she is as fast as other Americans were in college doesn't mean that she will become a 9 minute steepler. The 3 top American women make her look like a little girl on the track. I bet she gets almost nothing at this point. She could have raised her stock had she stayed and won XC and improved to 9:20.

She's running Mount Marathon this week. I'd love to see her commit even part-time to the ultra trail scene.

Golden Lady wrote:

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

Not true. Do a search, rumor not fact Dweeb, I mean Dert.

Someone offers you constructive criticism and you reply with an insult. Your self-image must really be in the dumps.

No, I can’t stand a smart a$$, especially when they’re wrong. Better get back to your barista job before the bosses catches you goofing off.

sponsor big daddy wrote:

She will get only a small stipend at this point. Just because she is as fast as other Americans were in college doesn't mean that she will become a 9 minute steepler. The 3 top American women make her look like a little girl on the track. I bet she gets almost nothing at this point. She could have raised her stock had she stayed and won XC and improved to 9:20.

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it's funny how miserable and pathetic many of the posters on the site come across.

guess who cares how much you think she will get? no one

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

Golden Lady wrote:

Someone offers you constructive criticism and you reply with an insult. Your self-image must really be in the dumps.

No, I can’t stand a smart a$$, especially when they’re wrong. Better get back to your barista job before the bosses catches you goofing off.

Except they weren’t wrong. You were.

Anyway, thanks for proving my point.

Igy troll on the loose!

set the traps, get the Raid

Go pro or go wrote:

Who is going to sign a 9:30 steepler?

Based on her NCAA performance, I think she has the ability to run close to 9:20 in optimal conditions (e.g. cool weather). I think she was tired at Pre. Although it was a PR there clearly is the potential to go much faster right now.

In any case, she was the fifth-fastest American woman Steeplchaser in 2018.

She is an obvious pick for a fourth place finish at the U.S. trials in 2020. While a top-3 finish would be better, the prospect of coming in fourth should be enough to interest shoe and apparel companies.

Golden Lady wrote:

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

No, I can’t stand a smart a$$, especially when they’re wrong. Better get back to your barista job before the bosses catches you goofing off.

Except they weren’t wrong. You were.

Anyway, thanks for proving my point.

Mix up the Vente Latte for the customer. Don’t let the boss see ya goofing around on the internet.

get the Raid wrote:

Igy troll on the loose!

set the traps, get the Raid

I’m not the troll. I was the OP that posted the story.

Help Golden Girl with that order for the gents at the register.

get the Raid wrote:

Igy troll on the loose!

set the traps, get the Raid

Sadly, this personality-damaged troll follows Igy around the message boards trying to annoy him. One has to wonder what his father did to him to make him so obsessive about male authority figures; or perhaps he was just born with bad brain wiring. We will never know but we always can count on his little pathetic efforts to seek attention.

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

get the Raid wrote:

Igy troll on the loose!

set the traps, get the Raid

I’m not the troll. I was the OP that posted the story.

Help Golden Girl with that order for the gents at the register.

Figured as much, was referring to your stalker, whom the brojos should ban.

seen this before wrote:

get the Raid wrote:

Igy troll on the loose!

set the traps, get the Raid

Sadly, this personality-damaged troll follows Igy around the message boards trying to annoy him. One has to wonder what his father did to him to make him so obsessive about male authority figures; or perhaps he was just born with bad brain wiring. We will never know but we always can count on his little pathetic efforts to seek attention.

I think you misunderstood that post, Igy. I could be wrong, but I thought he was calling out the other poster.

Sally Vix wrote:

I wish her the best but her PR is about 50 seconds behind the WR. Would you be encouraging an 8:45 male steepler to go pro? She is basically the equivalent of an 8:45 steepler who would be gobbled up at NCAAs. Why should we be celebrating her going pro?

You've never been good at math, but it's more like an 8:35 guy (with multiple NCAA titles in the event) going pro. 9:31/8:44*7:53.

Sorry to see her leave Boise, but hopeful she has a successful career. As others mentioned, I also think that her comparative advantage will be in the 10K and marathon - esp by 2024. When she races, she just 'looks' like a marathoner to me. If she selected Ray Flynn as manager, does that mean she is looking for NB contract and to train with Sisson (and Huddle)? Wherever she goes, I just hope she has good 10K/marathon coaches and training partners.

sponsor big daddy wrote:

She will get only a small stipend at this point. Just because she is as fast as other Americans were in college doesn't mean that she will become a 9 minute steepler. The 3 top American women make her look like a little girl on the track. I bet she gets almost nothing at this point. She could have raised her stock had she stayed and won XC and improved to 9:20.

This wins idiotic post of 2019 thus far - no small feat! Congratulations, "sponsor big daddy" !

AllieO is most definitely one of the more marketable female runners to go pro in quite awhile, and will definitely be getting far more than a "small stipend." Note that marketability is not solely linked to PRs. Allie is versatile over many events/distances, she has a fun personality, and she probably has more Insta followers than any other recent runner to go pro - meaning, she will help SELL product (the main goal by most sponsors).