Semenya is losing it

Losing what, exactly? I dare anyone to endure even one-quarter of what she has dealt with since 2009 and i guarantee she hardly looks bad. Wait...she? Did I say that? Yes I did...and, in fact, it was accepted that Caster was female until certain people or sport governing bodies decided to change it. Or change leaders. Or change findings. Or re-evaluate their decisions. At what point does it stop? To suggest her advantage is insurmountable, her times, as I have stated before, would have to eclipse Jarmila Kratochvilova's record by an inexplicable range. She's basically a 1:55-1:56 runner....and more recently, she won an 800 with a 2:01. If the field is underperforming, how is it Semenya's fault? I think the fight should continue and I think it's sad that Semenya and her intersexed condition are being used for fodder and I think it's a travesty that she is being simplified to a transgender man. If anything, she is even stronger than some of the men here in that she continues a fight that she deserves to win, even if it being stolen from her by shifting standards.

Ghggg wrote:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-athletics-diamond-prefontaine-idUSKCN1TV0X0

That’ll be the day.

Who exactly is she threatening?

This is what we want- biologically men out of xx chromosome women races! She also compared herself to Jesus- no shame. When did Jesus ever rob women of their rights? When did Jesus make a fortune out of a lie?

Your anger projects guilt. That isn’t intersex, that is a 100% biologically male, making a fortune out of prize money selfishly on the backs of real xx chromosome women. The fact that Semenya hasn’t lost a 800 race in more than a decade, winning all the races by a country mile just acknowledges it. No womb, no ovaries, inner testes, XY chromosome, testosterone levels of a man, physical built of a man, dressed as a man, married to a woman, that is a man. So stop the nonsense. I don’t even think she suffers. All she cares about is getting more and more prize money as a fraud. And hopefully it’s going to end soon, because that is a big lie. Truth will prevail

In 2015, when she beat Ajee by 15 meters, tell me how that is a country mile?

Explain how she has never even gotten a sniff at Kratochvilova's 1:53 and change,being a second over that.

Is this really your evidence that she should stop or are you just being discriminatory?

You'd best decide

Semenya's best ever 800: 1:54.25

Ajee's best ever 800: 1:55.61

1.36 seconds

When Rudisha is in the 1:41/1:42 range, how can anyone realistically claim an advantage for Semenya?

Explain please.

In fact, mathematically, it adds up.

Semenya beats Ajee by 1.125 seconds in a race where she wins by 15 meters in a vacuum.

Their best times differ by 1.36 seconds

Conversely,Rudisha is 93 meters ahead of Semenya in the same comparison of best times (1:40.91)

Stoppit Smith wrote:

Semenya's best ever 800: 1:54.25

Ajee's best ever 800: 1:55.61

1.36 seconds

When Rudisha is in the 1:41/1:42 range, how can anyone realistically claim an advantage for Semenya?

Explain please.

This argument has nothing to do with the fact that Semenya is a 100% biologically male and therefore shouldn’t be allowed to race in women category. As simple as that.

They just must stop Semenya and all intersex runners from competing with women , or else women track & field will die out.

Stoppit Smith wrote:

In fact, mathematically, it adds up.

Semenya beats Ajee by 1.125 seconds in a race where she wins by 15 meters in a vacuum.

Their best times differ by 1.36 seconds

Conversely,Rudisha is 93 meters ahead of Semenya in the same comparison of best times (1:40.91)

Semenya supporters try all the time to drag the conversation anywhere but the only fact that counts- biologically men run with men. To this they have no response. Nothing else matters in this case.

Stoppit Smith wrote:

In fact, mathematically, it adds up.

Semenya beats Ajee by 1.125 seconds in a race where she wins by 15 meters in a vacuum.

Their best times differ by 1.36 seconds

Conversely,Rudisha is 93 meters ahead of Semenya in the same comparison of best times (1:40.91)

It's because he just isn't that talented a runner. Lots of biological males can run a 1:54 with some training. We're talking millions upon millions....

"or else women track & field will die out."

It will die when most women's 800s are won in a time not much below 1:58, five seconds off world record pace.

How long would male T&F last if no male 800 runner broke 1:46?

Ok. Next variable then.

Assuming all other factors, how do you explain the presence of hips and the fact that her legs swing out laterally, rather than straight out like a male,suggesting a pelvic girdle structure that is decidedly female?

Hmmm. There is XY intersex...yes

Ghggg wrote:

She also compared herself to Jesus- no shame. When did Jesus ever rob women of their rights?

ever been to Georgia?

Stoppit Smith wrote:

Explain how she has never even gotten a sniff at Kratochvilova's 1:53

Simple, because Krat cheated and achieved an impossible time as a result. Doing the 800 in a Ferrari would also be cheating. Or entering a greyhound and claiming it was human. Semeny should not be competing against XX women, plain and simple.

Try a case: semen wrote:

Or entering a greyhound and claiming it was human. .

Don't worry, that is on the way in the circus our sport is becoming in the era of the Identarian Grievance. In this Klown World, Identity > Reality.

milermb wrote:

"or else women track & field will die out."

It will die when most women's 800s are won in a time not much below 1:58, five seconds off world record pace.

How long would male T&F last if no male 800 runner broke 1:46?

Can we stop acting like Krat's 1:53 is a clean time that athletes should be compared to? If Semenya broke that (which, if she regularly tried to this last decade I think she would have), it would be an even stronger argument against her. How often do men come close to Bolt's 9.58, El G's 3:26, Bekele's 12:37? Almost never.

Stoppit Smith wrote:

In fact, mathematically, it adds up.

Semenya beats Ajee by 1.125 seconds in a race where she wins by 15 meters in a vacuum.

Their best times differ by 1.36 seconds

Conversely,Rudisha is 93 meters ahead of Semenya in the same comparison of best times (1:40.91)

Wow. So your argument is basically that Semenya is a club level 800m male XY runner and not that fast. Therefore he should be allowed to dominate womens' races because his pr is slightly faster than the fastest women's prs. And he was born with a small penis and mistakenly raised as a girl, so women should miss out on medals and South African women should miss out on team places because of this.

However, he should be pitied because of the millions he has made from being a mediocre male XY runner and his arrogant and selfish attitude justifies feeling sorry for him and letting this charade continue.

Oh sorry, I forgot the bit that birth control pills or the minute levels of hormones in HRT that billions of women take make him feel a bit sick and a little sluggish, so he should also be pitied. And of course, he should not have to race against men of similar ability level to himself but be allowed to win Olympic and World medals against women instead.

So instead of a logically determined set of parameters for inclusion based on science, we are to admit a charlatan in order to foster male privilege, so that women don't have their own exclusive categories to run in. Men get their own category and men also get into the women's category, if they are special men. So what category do women get into to win medals if they're more than 10 seconds slower than the fastest women?

Just remind me of the male 800m Olympic winning time in Rio please.

Wtf are you talking about???

Stoppit Smith wrote:

In 2015, when she beat Ajee by 15 meters, tell me how that is a country mile?

Explain how she has never even gotten a sniff at Kratochvilova's 1:53 and change,being a second over that.

Is this really your evidence that she should stop or are you just being discriminatory?

You'd best decide

She's biologically male. I've stopped bothering to argue beyond that point as only the wilfully stupid or biased refuse to concede this.

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