"years ago Alberto Salazar's lawyer asked for info on over 100 posters on the forums" - wejo

they literally falsified medical records wrote:

As an MD, I cannot emphasize how beyond the pale it is for a "doctor" like Jeffrey Brown to falsify medical records. (As a "prescriber" of bogus thyroid supplementation and L-carnitine injections.)

Well, he was accused of falsifying the medical records and USADA referred the case to the Texas Medical Board. The Texas Medical Board has either not acted yet or has found that there is not proof of this allegation, as Dr. Jeffrey Brown is still in good standing with his licensing board.

The actual allegation was that the copy of the records he gave to the patient (Galen Rupp) did not match the copy he gave to USADA, in that one did not have the cc's on it and the other one did. So, maybe he went back and added that later. Maybe.

Gaylord Ruppsteen sucker wrote:

The NOP is a cesspool of doping. It’s the EPO Centre of the doping world. Word to your mother.

Honest people don't mail drugs in hollowed out books.

Honest people don't use their own child as a guinea pig to establish what the positive test threshold is.

Honest people don't give testosterone to 15 year old catholic school nerds.

Honest people don't fly 2000 miles to Houston because a doctor there is corrupt enough to prescribe bogus thyroid meds.

Honest people don't pull blood and have it shipped to the Mayo Clinic to make sure it won't show positive.

Honest people answer their doorbells when the doping control calls.

Honest people don't pal around with Lance Armstrong.

Sleazy sal is so blatantly, obviously, ridiculously guilty of being a doping cheater.

Born in the 856 wrote:

tarckstar wrote:

Name the over 100 posters. No harm there.

I bet one of those posters was "A Duck"

I wasn't me.

Pretty sure he never acknowledged my existence way back then.

I did think his restaurant was decent.

Rudy Chapa and Bill McChesney were awesome people

I don't understand what the issue is. I suppose an issue can be if insiders are leaking confidential information. Maybe Salazar has his athletes sign contracts that say they aren't allowed to disclose anything they do to anyone outside of the group. Other than that, there's no real legal grounds for any poster to be subject to slander via a message board. Sure, you can sue anyone for anything, but every judge would throw that case out immediately. If you can sue internet posters for slander that would mean EVERYONE on Twitter is subject to slander. Not going to happen.

Elfie Ruppenburg wrote:

Gaylord Ruppsteen sucker wrote:

The NOP is a cesspool of doping. It’s the EPO Centre of the doping world. Word to your mother.

Honest people don't mail drugs in hollowed out books.

Honest people don't use their own child as a guinea pig to establish what the positive test threshold is.

Honest people don't give testosterone to 15 year old catholic school nerds.

Honest people don't fly 2000 miles to Houston because a doctor there is corrupt enough to prescribe bogus thyroid meds.

Honest people don't pull blood and have it shipped to the Mayo Clinic to make sure it won't show positive.

Honest people answer their doorbells when the doping control calls.

Honest people don't pal around with Lance Armstrong.

Sleazy sal is so blatantly, obviously, ridiculously guilty of being a doping cheater.

This. I can see someone saying that NOP hasn't had anyone found guilty of doping but the sheer number of people that defend them fiercely on here is ridiculous. Some of you act like they aren't shady whatsoever and that's obviously false. It doesn't mean they're automatically guilty but it does mean that they don't deserve your defense or benefit of the doubt.

Go ahead and give the motherfuccer my name. I'm the one who started calling him saladbar.

I have commented on him many times, I heard he used to be intense, Hard Working and dedicated when he was competing, far different from the laid back coach he is today, VERY SIMILAR to Steve Scott who was considered one of the most dedicated and hard working runners on his team (UCI) in College, and he was said to be a hard worker as a Professional as well though very laid back as a coach, Friends have told me he did not train his athletes as hard as he trained himself when in his prime.

Alberto is not laid back. Not at all. I am not sure where you got that notion Douglas.

Precious Roy wrote:

The only "proof" you need in a civil case is admissible evidence that convinces a jury that they should find for the plaintiff by a preponderance of the evidence. NOP athletes would be able to testify that they didn't do drugs and put into evidence all the drug tests they have passed. If the defendant fails to come up with sufficient evidence to convince the jury that the doping allegations are true, then the NOP athletes could win if they show that the defendant knew the allegations were false or acted with reckless disregard for the truth

No, "preponderance of evidence" applies only to proving malice/reckless disregard/negligence and so forth. The falseness of the statement of fact has to be established before anything else is considered. If you try to establish that based on the good word of athletes that they don't dope, you won't get to trial. Athletes lie about doping all the time despite passing tests. WADA itself has a "likely doper" list of people who breeze through testing.

It would also be hard to prove malice, reckless disregard or even negligence or damages when the posts here are a public discourse about public figures. Track is plagued by doping; what's more "negligent," failing to "know" someone didn't dope, or failing to know the sport is so dope-addled that noone is above suspicion? Which current elite was unaware of that general suspicion when they first chose their career path, and in that context, whose career is "damaged" by it? Which accusations short of an actual failed test have cost anyone a sponsorship, appearance fees, or publicity? Who has gotten booed at meets - even for actual failed tests - other than Gatlin?

Victor Conte should not have settled with Marion Jones, as he would have won. He should have defeated her lawsuit publicly and set a clear precedent that elite athletes can never be presumed or even found clean under the law.

A Duck's back? Really? What's you're favorite word? I don't believe it's you. You would have said cesspool.

doctorj wrote:

wouldn't blame him wrote:

There have been lots of posts on here regarding NOP that are flat out libel. I don't like Salazar, but I can't say he would have been wrong to take action against the individuals who created those posts.

It is one thing to post a negative opinion or a suspicion, but if you post an accusation that you purport to be fact and it is false or not supportable by evidence, you should face the consequences.

I hope Coevett is reading your post, he is a regular offender obsessed with discrediting El G. One of these days he is gonna get sued.

El G would never want to go to court, it would be a blood bath to his credibility.

I am trying to figure out which is more pathetic... AlSal himself compiling a list of 100+ posters to dox or his lawyer compiling a list of 100+ posters to dox while charging AlSal $500/hour. In either case, AlSal would have been rather disappointed to learn that all 100+ posters were the same basement dwelling troll with a 20:01 5k PR.

Primo Numero Uno wrote:

Alberto is very very smart... Whatever the latest gray area advantage is he's using my guess would be it's not anything anyone on this board is mentioning or has probably heard of.

I have to agree. Although I'm sure Alberto gets irritated by LR threads he hears about, he knows 1. They know nothing and 2. His legal team is there in a pinch to shut it down. And honestly I would imagine, just as anyone who is powerful in their industry, he often enjoys the banter. No different than people hating Duke basketball, the chatter is good for business and getting new recruits.

I wonder what Bill Bowerman would think of the company that Nike has become.

I wonder what Betsy Ross thinks of the company that Nike has become.

Positive Contribution wrote:

I wonder what Bill Bowerman would think of the company that Nike has become.

Since the Brojos haven’t stepped into this thread and denied it, I have to assume they song like a canary and turned over all of the IP addresses . Has anyone here ever gotten a letter from a lawyer for Alsal threatening legal action ?? The other possibility is that they were checking IP addresses to see if any of the Nike runners were spilling the beans . Perhaps the Gouchers posting under an alias .

Hounddogharrier wrote:

Since the Brojos haven’t stepped into this thread and denied it, I have to assume they song like a canary and turned over all of the IP addresses . Has anyone here ever gotten a letter from a lawyer for Alsal threatening legal action ?? The other possibility is that they were checking IP addresses to see if any of the Nike runners were spilling the beans . Perhaps the Gouchers posting under an alias .

Bro, they've stated before when this has come up that they didn't turn anything over. Can you read?

It was a ridiculous idea anyway. 100 posters? or the same 5 posters writing under 20 different names?

Anyway, the lawyer will get paid just for making the request so what does he care?

kfakfafaf wrote:

It was a ridiculous idea anyway. 100 posters? or the same 5 posters writing under 20 different names?

Anyway, the lawyer will get paid just for making the request so what does he care?

Who were these posters? Asking for a friend.