local lib wrote:
Voters faced with a choice of Biden or Bernie have repeatedly and resounding favored Biden. It doesn’t get more fair or clear than that.
Fake news. That's not what happened, and cheating is not fair.
local lib wrote:
Voters faced with a choice of Biden or Bernie have repeatedly and resounding favored Biden. It doesn’t get more fair or clear than that.
Fake news. That's not what happened, and cheating is not fair.
breit leit wrote:
In 2016, Sanders won the primaries in Minnesota, Oklahoma, Michigan, Maine, Idaho and Washington.
In 2020, Sanders lost the primaries in Minnesota, Oklahoma, Michigan, Maine, Idaho and Washington.
Yeah that's crazy. How could that happen? Hmm....... The answer is kind of obvious.
dunes runner wrote:
Conundrum wrote:
Question for dunes runner:
What if Bernie asks you to support Biden ... would you vote for Biden?
Hell no.
I support Bernie Sanders because of his history, the issues that are important to him, his policies, and because of the Progressive movement. I don't care how smart he is, or whether he loves this country. He's standing up for the people and that's what matters to me.
I actually don't like that he's friends with Joe Biden, who has personally been responsible for the deaths of millions of people, and whose history to date is far worse than Trump's.
Your question is very stupid.
If Biden asked you to vote for Hitler, would you do it? Yes, you probably would.
No. I make up my own mind about who to vote for, and I will never vote for Joe Biden.
I will continue to support Progressive policies and Progressive candidates.
Biden would never ask me to vote for Hitler. But Bernie, who you claim stands up for the people, will soon ask you to support Biden.
Now why would an honest man who has a history of standing up for the people, be so wrong about Biden. Could it be that Bernie understands Biden and Trump and their different effects on "the people" better than you.
Or are you right and Bernie just has bad judgement on this? It has to be one or the other. Are you right or is Bernie right?
Precious Roy wrote:
Truth b told2 wrote:
It wasn't the "establishment", it wasn't the media, it wasn't the party leaders, it was the people who gave a resounding no to Bernie.
Would the result have been the same had Pete, Warren, and Klobuchar been allowed to stay in as long as they wanted? Would the result have been the same had Warren not allowed a superPac with $13 mil to run anti-Bernie ads? Would the result have been the same had the DNC kept Bloomberg out of the debates instead of changing the rules to let him in? Would the result have been the same had the DNC delayed the primaries instead of telling people to go to the polls during an epidemic? Would the result have been different had the media called out Biden for consistently lying about his record during the last debate instead of spending all their time talking about how it is impossible for Bernie to win at this point?
This is a really weak post from you, sorry to say. Normally your posts are well thought out and researched. There's no evidence for much of what you write. The DNC doesn't decide if a state wants to delay its primary, for example.
Do you think this dunes person is a plant by rojo to provoke responses, a Russian troll or just some nut job looking for attention?
I won’t address him/her anymore.
Conundrum wrote:
Biden would never ask me to vote for Hitler. But Bernie, who you claim stands up for the people, will soon ask you to support Biden. Now why would an honest man who has a history of standing up for the people, be so wrong about Biden. Could it be that Bernie understands Biden and Trump and their different effects on "the people" better than you. Or are you right and Bernie just has bad judgement on this? It has to be one or the other. Are you right or is Bernie right?
You are out of line to be harassing people who support Bernie.
I would never in my life harass somebody to try and get them to vote for Bernie
For example, I have never asked you, nor Rachel, nor any of the other Biden trolls to vote for Bernie.
But you think that's okay. Wow, you're as crazy and Joe Biden.
Yeah not going to feed the troll.
Conundrum wrote:
Biden would never ask me to vote for Hitler.
You evaded my question. I asked if you would vote for Hitler if Biden asked you to.
Obviously, the answer is yes.
My answer, which I already gave you, is "Hell No."
Conundrum wrote:
Bernie, who you claim stands up for the people, will soon ask you to support Biden.
Actually I think Biden will fold under the stress and drop out, leaving Bernie to be the candidate.
As I have said many times, I support Bernie because of his history, his support of the issues that I'm interested in, and his representation of the working class in the country and the rest of the world.
I don't support him just because he's Bernie Sanders, and mindlessly do anything that he says, and I don't support him because he's temporarily in the Democratic party. I would not support him if he suddenly flip flopped (unlikely) and started acting like Joe Biden, for example.
You see, I support Bernie because he represents some of the issues of importance to me.
That's why I would never vote for Joe Biden.
L L wrote:
Do you think this dunes person is a plant by rojo to provoke responses, a Russian troll or just some nut job looking for attention?
Rojo doesn't like me, so no.
I won’t address him/her anymore.
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
dunes runner wrote:
Conundrum wrote:
Biden would never ask me to vote for Hitler. But Bernie, who you claim stands up for the people, will soon ask you to support Biden. Now why would an honest man who has a history of standing up for the people, be so wrong about Biden. Could it be that Bernie understands Biden and Trump and their different effects on "the people" better than you. Or are you right and Bernie just has bad judgement on this? It has to be one or the other. Are you right or is Bernie right?
You are out of line (blah blah blah....)
You evaded his question. Does Bernie have bad judgment, or does he understand the needs of the people better than you?
dunes runner wrote:
breit leit wrote:
In 2016, Sanders won the primaries in Minnesota, Oklahoma, Michigan, Maine, Idaho and Washington.
In 2020, Sanders lost the primaries in Minnesota, Oklahoma, Michigan, Maine, Idaho and Washington.
Yeah that's crazy. How could that happen? Hmm....... The answer is kind of obvious.
It's obvious. Some people hated Hillary which is why Trump ultimately won the election.
reer wrote:
You evaded his question.
Wrong. I have already answered your question several times.
Bernie has a 40 year record of representing the needs of the people.
Of course he has excellent judgment. If you had good judgment you would vote for him too.
My judgment is excellent as well, which is why I support Bernie Sanders and the Progressive movement.
As I have already stated numerous times, I will continue to support Bernie as long as he is a Progressive Candidate.
If and when he is no longer a candidate, then I will continue to support Progressive issues and candidates.
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LOL Trumpster meltdown on full show.
Joe Biden is not a Progressive candidate.
He has a long and terrible history. He's a war monger who's been responsible for the murder of millions of people. He's an anti-black segregationist who has fought all his life to keep black, Latino and other minorities poor and not relevant. Even in the current election he has continued to support election fraud and voter suppression. He has a long history of abusing and molesting women and little girls which is completely disgusting.
People who have voted for someone like that need to take a really good look at themselves.
breit leit wrote:
In 2016, Sanders won the primaries in Minnesota, Oklahoma, Michigan, Maine, Idaho and Washington.
In 2020, Sanders lost the primaries in Minnesota, Oklahoma, Michigan, Maine, Idaho and Washington.
dunes runner wrote:
Yeah that's crazy. How could that happen? Hmm....... The answer is kind of obvious.
coach wrote:
It's obvious. Some people hated Hillary which is why Trump ultimately won the election.
Right, because she and the DNC pulled the same voting machine fraud in 2016 against Bernie that they're doing again this year with Biden -- which means Trump would beat Biden even worse than he beat Hillary Clinton.
Bernie is the only candidate who can defeat Donald Trump.
reer wrote:
dunes runner wrote:
You are out of line (blah blah blah....)
You evaded his question. Does Bernie have bad judgment, or does he understand the needs of the people better than you?
Dunes never did answer that question. He couldn't without looking foolish.
But let me go back to his question to me about Biden recommending to me to support Hitler. No I wouldn't support Hitler and if that event occurred I would assume my judgement is much better than Biden's. But that is a hypothetical and Biden would never do anything like that.
But Bernie supporting Biden will come in the future and is reality. So Dunes does Bernie have bad judgement or does he understand the needs of the people better than you?
Please answer.
From here out, even if Bernie stays in the race, I think his job is going to be about steering his supporters toward Biden while steering Biden's rhetoric to be more progressive.
The Convention will be much more unified than 4 years ago.
breit leit wrote:
groping joe wrote:
Oh yes they are. Just saw this drop on Hulu and she's been making the rounds, doing interview, blaming Bernie Bros for her loss. Read an article yesterday Obama didn't want Biden to run and is worried he will 'embarrass himself'. All signs pointing toward another Hillary run.
https://www.hulu.com/series/hillary-793891ec-5bb7-4200-ba93-e3629532d670?&cmp=12386&utm_source=google&utm_medium=SEM&utm_campaign=CM_SEM_Hillary%20Documentary&utm_term=+hulu%20+hillary%20movie&ds_rl=1251123&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIs4aK88-N6AIVS73ACh1qCAVWEAAYASAAEgLHEPD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.dsYou're as wrong about this as you are about most things that you post.
Bump for homeboy being wrong about Hillary running for the nomination.
Well, Biden and Bernie could both die before the convention, so there has to be a backup plan.
Sorry to be morbid but RFK was possibly on his way to the nomination in 1968 and was killed in June that year.