Last time, Proctor did that Speed Project relay, and I wonder if a better prep wouldn’t be to do the whole distance with relays of pacers?
Last time, Proctor did that Speed Project relay, and I wonder if a better prep wouldn’t be to do the whole distance with relays of pacers?
Six Days in the Dome is LOADED! There may be hope for Dave yet, to live down that phony record attempt from last year.
Trishul’s scheduled to be at the Dome! Trishul did two 6-days over 800 kms in ‘86 (including the Canadian record, nipped by Careau in ‘93), PLUS an excellent 1000-mile, plus several other races that year!
Canadians not named Proctor have certainly been known to pile on the multidays! Careau (met him many times, just like Al Howie & Cherns) was also a hugely productive runner, retired diplomat? He met us at the Ottawa presser in ‘91; won Weston 6-day in ‘90, hundreds of miles ahead of me; finished 2nd to the great Kouros at the 1000-mile WC in ‘88 (1st Master), again hundreds of miles ahead of me.
Proctor has seemingly nothing in common with these runners.
“us.srichinmoyraces.org” has a beautiful tribute to Al Howie by Arpan DeAngelo (himself a1000-miler & volunteer who assisted me, when my Achilles was swollen, during my only 1000-mile race), as well as a piece on Careau & so much else.
Trishul as well, you could do a whole book, and he did Sydney-Melbourne like Careau.
Barbara McCleoud & many other Canadians did the multidays with us in New York, and I hope Proctor will learn to humbly pay tribute to those who came before!
There’s been some discussion on another thread about calorie output/intake.
Eating enough was a real challenge for Al initially & he lost weight & puked up a whole meal once or twice. But eventually he settled into a light weight & ate more & increased his mileage a few miles per day. It’s a critical lesson that the slow buildup & persistence & experience yields results.
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jesseriley wrote:
“us.srichinmoyraces.org” has a beautiful tribute to Al Howie by Arpan DeAngelo (himself a1000-miler & volunteer who assisted me, when my Achilles was swollen, during my only 1000-mile race), as well as a piece on Careau & so much else.
Trishul as well, you could do a whole book, and he did Sydney-Melbourne like Careau.
Barbara McCleoud & many other Canadians did the multidays with us in New York, and I hope Proctor will learn to humbly pay tribute to those who came before!
I thought it was documented Barbara took a car ride for some of the segments . You did a poor job prepping her.
I’ll take that as a No, definitely not going to acknowledge any predecessors. I don’t mind doing a bit on multiday Canadians, I did find a few more.
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Don't eat too much of it. This thread will go on forever and we don't want that you get obese.
Nonamer wrote:
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Can someone win a pair of Hoka Carbon Xs by replying to their own thread over and over?
Only if other people read it & respond to it.
Before moving on to lesser known Canadians in multiday, let’s look at those already mentioned.
Michel Careau has a listed best of 176 kms in one day, but 6 days he’s done 868 kms. He would never be famous for his speed, which is a lot of incentive to practice multiday. It all starts with a talent for stamina; but then it leads to doing more long races, which brings out the talent even more.
He certainly had a plodding style, which does less damage & again, only leads to more races, more practice. So the rich get richer.
Faster runners have a springier stride, higher impact, more damage, fewer races, less practice.
Trishul Cherns has 866 kms for six days, 198 kms for 24 hours.
Only reason Trishul doesn’t own the six-day Canadian record anymore is probably his youth. Careau ran later in life & Trishul’s shorter marks were out of Careau’s reach. But stamina is a defining characteristic of humans, it’s the last thing you lose.
Trishul started young & certainly did the World Tour of Sweat. Trishul had a classic, lean physique; when you find a lightweight runner who doesn’t get the low blood sugar, even over days or even weeks, that runner is Hell on Wheels.
Trishul is very down-to-earth and one of the humblest world-class athletes you will meet. Which helps, because multiday is a humbling sport. Multiday decks you, then dares you to get up & keep fighting. Day after day, you have to ask yourself, “Are you a fighter?”
A multiday fight makes a boxing match look like a sprint.
Al Howie, listed as 213 kms for 24 hours (but I think he did 241 at Ottawa; many of his records are incomplete, or you have to consult the all-time lists which include winners of races that have no finisher list), 827 kms for 6 days (probably a split).
Al was the rare runner who had no specialty. He won local 5Ks, he did solo multiday runs on a bet; with Al, we’ll never know how deep the well went. The longer the run, the more likely he’d be fresher at the finish than the start. He needed a lot of miles, and he probably didn’t know it.
Taking in energy, though, was a different story; he had to be careful to eat enough. Al didn’t mind difficult conditions, but neither was he quick or organized in taking advantage of easy conditions. His best events, he had assistance from family, crew & organizers.
Al was close to the edge, genetically. His health could deteriorate rapidly if he didn’t keep training. Think Maradona or Babe Ruth. Dying of cancer, Babe Ruth left the field after his final appearance at Yankee Stadium and said, “I think the termites got me.”
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Can someone win a pair of Hoka Carbon Xs by replying to their own thread over and over?
Yes indeed. Jesse will get all ten pairs.
I think I’m supposed to wring my hands and say, “This could have been such an inspiring story, if not for these trolls!”
John Breit, a Canadian national living in Australia, completed two Sydney-Melbournes. He was a distant second Canadian to score at the WC 100K when it was held near home at Edmund Fitzgerald, after Stefan Fekner.
His 24-hour best is listed at 238 kms. His best Sydney-Melbourne was 1006 kms in 7 days, 8 hours. It’s not record-eligible, but a fine, professional race at an average split of 838 kms for six days.
Correction, 7 days 4 hours. Following Breit we have some Canadians in the 700s range for 6 days such as David LaPierre, who entered Trans Am. Antana Locs leads the Canadian women into the 700s, still far more than Proctor has done, of course.
Antana’s still doing ultras & I was entered in several multidays with her. After her 1000-milers she often took an off-season rest from hard training, and memorably I was able to run a whole marathon with her, by accident, when she showed up at the Miami Marathon in ‘92. In fact, she threatened to quit several times!
Another unusual thing about last year was the presence of various family members & an entourage, but no experienced multiday people, for a runner who was already too inexperienced. You need so much more focus & seriousness to take a record from Al Howie; it was never even slightly plausible to me. More like a vacation.
My concern is that, if you’re going to cheat, you need a big, loyal group. But if you’re going to get the record with an inexperienced runner, you need an experienced, but not necessarily large, crew.
I’m a D2 female runner. Our coach explicitly told us not to visit LetsRun forums.
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