Transgender woman CeCe Telfer currently sits at #2 in NCAA D2 100 hurdles - Watch her DOMINATE here (video)

Wow, a lot of bigoted haters in this thread. Where does the hatred stop? Are you gonna force her to shower with the guys instead of the girls?

where it will get really scary in the ncaa,or any leval, is if a 10.3/20.6 sprinter,sub 46 400 runner,1.47 800 runner,or 13.50 5000 runner decides theyre female,and wants to compete with women.sure,it hasnt happened,and it probably never will,but one day it could.

Magic Mike wrote:

Wow, a lot of bigoted haters in this thread. Where does the hatred stop? Are you gonna force her to shower with the guys instead of the girls?

Born a man....now showering with the ladies....can you say creepy?

Magic Mike wrote:

Wow, a lot of bigoted haters in this thread. Where does the hatred stop? Are you gonna force her to shower with the guys instead of the girls?

It really isn't bigoted to think there should be a running category that doesn't include people with XY chromosomes and the SRY gene.

jeff tallon wrote:

where it will get really scary in the ncaa,or any leval, is if a 10.3/20.6 sprinter,sub 46 400 runner,1.47 800 runner,or 13.50 5000 runner decides theyre female,and wants to compete with women.sure,it hasnt happened,and it probably never will,but one day it could.

Are you and Rojo this dumb? Why do you identify as a woman if it's so easy. Second the NCAA has strict guidelines.

A trans male (FTM) student-athlete who has received a medical exception for treatment with testosterone

for diagnosed Gender Identity Disorder or gender dysphoria and/or Transsexualism, for purposes

of NCAA competition may compete on a men’s team, but is no longer eligible to compete on a women’s

team without changing that team status to a mixed team.

2. A trans female (MTF) student-athlete being treated with testosterone suppression medication for

Gender Identity Disorder or gender dysphoria and/or Transsexualism, for the purposes of NCAA competition

may continue to compete on a men’s team but may not compete on a women’s team without

changing it to a mixed team status until completing one calendar year of testosterone suppression

treatment.

Any transgender student-athlete who is not taking hormone treatment related to gender transition may participate

in sex-separated sports activities in accordance with his or her assigned birth gender.

• A trans male (FTM) student-athlete who is not taking testosterone related to gender transition may

participate on a men’s or women’s team.

• A trans female (MTF) transgender student-athlete who is not taking hormone treatments related to

gender transition may not compete on a women’s team.

In short the MTF woman has to take hormone treatment for one year. You idiots keep saying "well if I identify as a woman"

Identifying as anything - woman, chimp, billionaire. Is NOT Enough.

Transphobic letsrunners make me sick wrote:

In short the MTF woman has to take hormone treatment for one year. You idiots keep saying "well if I identify as a woman"

Identifying as anything - woman, chimp, billionaire. Is NOT Enough.

Taking hormone therapy also isn't enough... it is delusional to believe someone born XY with the SRY gene taking hormone therapy is going to somehow be on par with someone born XX.

Why should we assume Cece is on hormone treatment? It's not like there's drug testing at these meets.

identify with facts wrote:

Transphobic letsrunners make me sick wrote:

In short the MTF woman has to take hormone treatment for one year. You idiots keep saying "well if I identify as a woman"

Identifying as anything - woman, chimp, billionaire. Is NOT Enough.

Taking hormone therapy also isn't enough... it is delusional to believe someone born XY with the SRY gene taking hormone therapy is going to somehow be on par with someone born XX.

With over 6,000 genetic differences between men and women that can ever be altered.

Magic Mike wrote:

Wow, a lot of bigoted haters in this thread. Where does the hatred stop? Are you gonna force her to shower with the guys instead of the girls?

Bigot: a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions.

Seems like the only bigot here is you "Magic Mike".

You should be more tolerant of other people's opinions instead of just labeling anyone who disagrees with you a "bigot". Sad strategy...typical liberal.

Define Bigot wrote:

Magic Mike wrote:

Wow, a lot of bigoted haters in this thread. Where does the hatred stop? Are you gonna force her to shower with the guys instead of the girls?

Bigot: a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions.

Seems like the only bigot here is you "Magic Mike".

You should be more tolerant of other people's opinions instead of just labeling anyone who disagrees with you a "bigot". Sad strategy...typical liberal.

You maybe had a point until the last sentence which contradicts your first.

Creeepy Mike wrote:

Magic Mike wrote:

Wow, a lot of bigoted haters in this thread. Where does the hatred stop? Are you gonna force her to shower with the guys instead of the girls?

Born a man....now showering with the ladies....can you say creepy?

Most college athletes shower at home or back at the dorms.

Wolf's Bane wrote:

Creeepy Mike wrote:

Born a man....now showering with the ladies....can you say creepy?

Most college athletes shower at home or back at the dorms.

How do you know? At my school the majority showered at the athletic facility.

Even so, the fact that it would be considered "okay" and "normal" for someone born a man to now shower with a bunch of girls is disgusting.

I feel sorry for the girls who have to deal with that today. Even just the use of the bathroom. Must make them feel extremely uncomfortable to know a man is in there with them.

There was time that it was “creepy” when a black man courted a white woman. We gonna ban that too? Or maybe just give them their own shower and label which colors can use it?

Same with this guy. Why don’t we just go ahead and make a running category with too many melanin genes? Same logic!

I’m a dyed-in-the-wool conservative American, and we know bigotry when we see it. I wish to conserve America’s non-bigoted policies.

The Majority (of the People) rule every debate in a democracy. Minorities can only lobby and petition the People's representatives. Even one-sided or bigoted sentiments that are the People's sentiments, constitute the mainstream and must be unequivocally enshrined at every level.

To answer Rojo's question, I'm a decent female hobby jogger. I run about 30 miles a week and occasionally win small 5Ks and am usual competitive in my age group. If there were a third gender as much weaker than women as women are than men (stay with me here), and I could transition to that gender with some hormones, and I'd be the best in the country, college scholarship and on track for the Olympics, you better believe I'd start working a hell of a lot harder. I'd stretch, weight train, quit my job or lighten my course load, run 80 miles a week instead of 30. My guess is this athlete is working a hell of a lot harder now because "she" has more to win.

This is in contrast to Semenya, who already had huge motivation to work hard before going on hormones. She was already maxed out.

And, in case anyone cares for my opinion, I think it's massively unfair for transgender athletes to compete as women after hormone therapy. It shouldn't be allowed at the NCAA or professional level. I'm not a huge fan of Semenya competing after hormones, either, but I have somewhat more sympathy in her case. This is just ridiculous.

Yikes, hey Magic Mike, are you OK? How you can you try to compare inter-racial dating with a man masquerading as a women.

The guy has a penis, was born with the damn thing, not a fashion accessary. He is a MAN.

My wife works at a very liberal workplace, there are two MEN playing the IDENTIFY as a woman game. She is disgusted by it when they are in the bathroom together, she immediately leaves, very creepy. My wife is very liberal, supports that fake indian as well, but finds the identifying as a woman thing as going too far.

sadfa wrote:

To answer Rojo's question, I'm a decent female hobby jogger. I run about 30 miles a week and occasionally win small 5Ks and am usual competitive in my age group. If there were a third gender as much weaker than women as women are than men (stay with me here), and I could transition to that gender with some hormones, and I'd be the best in the country, college scholarship and on track for the Olympics, you better believe I'd start working a hell of a lot harder. I'd stretch, weight train, quit my job or lighten my course load, run 80 miles a week instead of 30. My guess is this athlete is working a hell of a lot harder now because "she" has more to win.

Why don't you work harder now to become the best in the country?

Hardloper wrote:

sadfa wrote:

To answer Rojo's question, I'm a decent female hobby jogger. I run about 30 miles a week and occasionally win small 5Ks and am usual competitive in my age group. If there were a third gender as much weaker than women as women are than men (stay with me here), and I could transition to that gender with some hormones, and I'd be the best in the country, college scholarship and on track for the Olympics, you better believe I'd start working a hell of a lot harder. I'd stretch, weight train, quit my job or lighten my course load, run 80 miles a week instead of 30. My guess is this athlete is working a hell of a lot harder now because "she" has more to win.

Why don't you work harder now to become the best in the country?

Well done. You have completely missed her point. She's a woman and not identifying and transitioning as one.

Armstronglivs wrote:

Hardloper wrote:

Why don't you work harder now to become the best in the country?

Well done. You have completely missed her point. She's a woman and not identifying and transitioning as one.

No I didn't.