Alysia Montano lying about pregnancy timeline and departure from Nike

If the pregnancy issue was in Alysia’s contract why didn’t she fight it when she signed it? She didn’t have to sign the contract. She could have negotiated with another brand. But she signed the contract likely knowing this information. If she had no idea then shame on her for not reading a major contract that she was signing. If it wasn’t in the contract, then shame on Nike.

OP, you called Alysia Johnson-Montano a liar. You stated Johnson-Montano lied about the date she was fired by Nike. You stated she lied about the day said child was conceived. Since you referred to Johnson-Montano as a liar, it is your duty to state the correct date Johnson-Montano's child was conceived. It is your responsibility to state date Johnson-Montano was fired. You're most likely a piece of sh&t Nike employee. Who else would care about detailed contract law regarding Johnson-Montano?

OP=Liar wrote:

Who else would care about detailed contract law regarding Johnson-Montano?

People who care about truth over narrative, maybe?

Whether she lied or not, there must have been some truth to the allegations because Nike has supposedly changed it's policy.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/nike-to-change-pregnancy-policy-in-athlete-contracts-11558137409

OP, you called Alysia Johnson-Montano a liar. You stated Johnson-Montano lied about the date she was fired by Nike. You stated she lied about the day said child was conceived. Since you referred to Johnson-Montano as a liar, it is your duty to state the correct date Johnson-Montano's child was conceived. It is your responsibility to state date Johnson-Montano was fired. You're most likely a piece of sh&t Nike employee. Who else would care about detailed contract law regarding Johnson-Montano?[/quote]

Hi Alysia!

krispy kremlin._._._., wrote:

OP=Liar wrote:

Who else would care about detailed contract law regarding Johnson-Montano?

People who care about truth over narrative, maybe?

+1

She's old news anyway. Pull the silly flower out of your hair, and go do something else.

Only a few are Nike employees for Life . She is not one of them.

Kraft Mac and Cheese wrote:

OP, you called Alysia Johnson-Montano a liar. You stated Johnson-Montano lied about the date she was fired by Nike. You stated she lied about the day said child was conceived. Since you referred to Johnson-Montano as a liar, it is your duty to state the correct date Johnson-Montano's child was conceived. It is your responsibility to state date Johnson-Montano was fired. You're most likely a piece of sh&t Nike employee. Who else would care about detailed contract law regarding Johnson-Montano?

Hi Alysia![/quote]

She is so annoying. Need attention much? She has been wanting people to look at her for years.

She certainly looks guilty of something.

Its all good as long as we don't bring a Goucher back in for another 15mins of fame or crying ;-)

I'm with Montano and any reasonable person should be. People sign bad contracts all the time, particularly if one or two companies are the only real opportunities available to you. Thanks to more companies offering sponsorships Nike now has to improve the terms they are putting in their contracts. Montano and many other athletes have to put off pregnancy if they want to be competitive, which is an understandable choice and sacrifice, but a company who cares about its employees should not demonize something like childbearing. They clearly don't have the health of their workers in mind if they only improve their benefits to serve retention or public relations damage control. You shouldn't make your business about treating employees poorly until you absolutely can't get away with it anymore.

Shoebacca wrote:

I'm with Montano and any reasonable person should be. People sign bad contracts all the time, particularly if one or two companies are the only real opportunities available to you. Thanks to more companies offering sponsorships Nike now has to improve the terms they are putting in their contracts. Montano and many other athletes have to put off pregnancy if they want to be competitive, which is an understandable choice and sacrifice, but a company who cares about its employees should not demonize something like childbearing. They clearly don't have the health of their workers in mind if they only improve their benefits to serve retention or public relations damage control. You shouldn't make your business about treating employees poorly until you absolutely can't get away with it anymore.

There is a key distinction though: Montano was NOT an *employee* but rather a *contractor*. Big difference. Nike was under no obligation to pay Montano, or any other contractor, for services that the contractor was unable to render for whatever reason, including childbearing. Whether they *should* have for PR purposes is another question. But if Nike contracted with a person for, say, creative writing services, or to install a piece of art in the lobby of one of their office buildings, and that person didn't deliver the contracted-for services/art because they were busy with a baby, do you think Nike would or should still pay them? Of course not.

The problem as I see it is that elites like Montano have to enter into such contracts in the first place in order to make a living. Other professional sports have unions, leagues, and associations that help guard against such predicaments. THAT is the real problem.

Shoebacca wrote:

I'm with Montano and any reasonable person should be. People sign bad contracts all the time, particularly if one or two companies are the only real opportunities available to you. Thanks to more companies offering sponsorships Nike now has to improve the terms they are putting in their contracts. Montano and many other athletes have to put off pregnancy if they want to be competitive, which is an understandable choice and sacrifice, but a company who cares about its employees should not demonize something like childbearing. They clearly don't have the health of their workers in mind if they only improve their benefits to serve retention or public relations damage control. You shouldn't make your business about treating employees poorly until you absolutely can't get away with it anymore.

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This is some scary kool aid

People see these runners as employees but they are not. A good analogy was given. Put it in terms of real life. If you contracted with a photographer for your wedding next year and the photographer subsequently got pregnant and could not take pictures that day, you would not pay her.

Posts like this are just stupid. We as a society should be fighting for paid maternity leave for women. What if no shoe company offers it?

The post below nailed it perfectly!!!!! See below.

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And what's up with you all ripping her for crying when she got tripped. So many men can't handle women who a) stand up for themselves or b) show emotion.

When Berian stood up to Nike, he was a legend on here. When Montano does it, a bunch of insecure dudes go crazy.

Now, I do get the contractor stuff. Yes, it's not easy for a company. If you sign a woman to a 10 year deal, you probably don't want them to decide to not compete for 8 years as they have 4 kids.

^^^ This

The same thing happened with Kemoy Cambell at Millrose when he collapsed and he's sponsored by Reebok, it's not just NIKE. Most professional track athletes are "contract laborers" not "standard employees" so pay and compensation is strictly confined to job requirements and performance associated with running. You don't get health benefits like you're normal 9-5 desk job if any at all. Other shoe companies may have different arrangements specifically for pregnancy, but I'm not aware of those details. I imagine most contracts don't compensate pregnancy, especially for mid to lower-tier professional athletes.

It's partially on Montano for not knowing before she signed. She probably wasn't even thinking about it or wasn't planning on getting pregnant. On the other hand for you complaining about her being dramatic and crying all the time. Okay, in this instance she is, but she's trying to pave the way for future athletes in this situation. Obviously Nike felt something so they changed their policy, and other shoe companies might fall in line as well. Either way you look at it, this was something that needed to be addressed in general, whether she was lying on not. But if she is lying and giving Nike a bad rep, I'm disappointed. But at the same time, Nike only makes changes when they're called out on their BS. Well, sometimes at least.

OP,

Please email us at

robert@letsrun.com

. I"d be happy to write a story correcting the record if you can provide some facts.

Look at the timeline. She ran pregnant in june 2014-for Asics. Her son was born on Aug. 2014. That means she got pregnant in late 2013 (early December).

When was her contract with nike up? Was it at the end of 2013 or later

I doubt she’d answer any of these questions.