That's it. I'm calling BS on Brigid Kosgei's London performance

According to the BBC commentary, she didn't take a single drink the entire race.

I can believe she can finish a marathon like that (I couldn't), and it was a fairly cool day, but how can zero nutrition possibly be optimal?

Very strange indeed. ?

headwinds wrote:

According to the BBC commentary, she didn't take a single drink the entire race.

I can believe she can finish a marathon like that (I couldn't), and it was a fairly cool day, but how can zero nutrition possibly be optimal?

She wanted to make sure she couldn't possibly give a piss sample after the race.

I thought she also looked so stoic as she finished and had read something about dopers not showing actual joy at the time of their victories. But then there are plenty of pictures of Rita Jeptoo acting happy and exultant breaking the finish line.

It will be far less than a couple of years. I can assure you of that.

For women The past 8 years Olympic Champ, Boston, Chicago have all been convicted of doping. Has WMM and Olympic been able to get the money back? If no then that's the point for agents, coaches to accept doping. You are banned okay But you still made bank which is greater than being banned.

I remember reading with the litigation involved it was difficult to recoup the money years down the road...

The vast majority of elite E. Africans are doped.

Clown world.

Phantasy Star wrote:

The vast majority of elite E. Africans are doped.

Clown world.

I can't believe people believe...

Kosgei seriously heels strikes, making me think that she picks up even more benefit from the 4% or whatever she was wearing, compared to a mid-foot striker.

I downloaded the results for the elite and top 2000 women (last one finished in 3:39:47), calculated their second half time and sorted the results by the difference between the second and first half (faster 2nd half at the top).

I've included the top 30 results at the bottom.

the top 2 women in this list look like they cut the course somewhere (56mins for 2nd half?? and almost 1hr -ve split)

only 4 women had a greater difference between the 2nd half and 1st half

there are only four women finishing under 3hrs in this top 30 list, Vivian Cheruiyot is only other elite woman.

251 ran faster in the 2nd half than the 1st half.

141 ran more than a minute faster in the 2nd half.

272 ran their 2nd half within one minute of their 1st half.

here are the top 30 results:

name, 1st half, finish time, 2nd half, diff between 2nd & 1st half (secs)

Grigoriu, Raluca (ROU) 2:18:56 3:14:57 0:56:01 -4975

De Bonfils, Delphine (FRA) 2:17:45 3:35:40 1:17:55 -3590

Matthews, Charlotte (GBR) 1:43:40 3:19:32 1:35:52 -468

Gray, Jennefer (GBR) 1:48:41 3:29:54 1:41:13 -448

Ternan, Edwina (GBR) 1:47:36 3:29:26 1:41:50 -346

Coyle, Ciara (IRL) 1:51:45 3:38:11 1:46:26 -319

KOSGEI, Brigid (KEN) 1:11:38 2:18:20 1:06:42 -296

Cowley, Laura (GBR) 1:42:14 3:19:36 1:37:22 -292

Rossi, Sarah (GBR) 1:50:34 3:36:17 1:45:43 -291

Swindell, Jennifer (GBR) 1:51:54 3:39:18 1:47:24 -270

Spencer, Ruby (GBR) 1:37:53 3:11:31 1:33:38 -255

Marin, Laura (CRC) 1:43:37 3:23:01 1:39:24 -253

Murphy, Joanna (GBR) 1:36:34 3:08:56 1:32:22 -252

Walker, Patricia (GBR) 1:42:48 3:21:27 1:38:39 -249

Hutchinson, Catherine (GBR) 1:48:28 3:32:47 1:44:19 -249

Fielding, Kathryn (GBR) 1:48:55 3:33:41 1:44:46 -249

Elston, Vicky (GBR) 1:42:43 3:21:27 1:38:44 -239

Marsella-Watson, Ruth (GBR) 1:51:40 3:39:26 1:47:46 -234

Davies, Bronwen (WLS) 1:47:42 3:31:34 1:43:52 -230

Gutsell, Amy (GBR) 1:48:55 3:34:00 1:45:05 -230

Murray, Lauren (GBR) 1:47:02 3:30:16 1:43:14 -228

Oldroyd, Hannah (GBR) 1:24:31 2:45:39 1:21:08 -203

Biddle, Laura (GBR) 1:43:01 3:22:42 1:39:41 -200

Moroney, Janice (GBR) 1:49:47 3:36:14 1:46:27 -200

Stygall (Nee Bissell), Dawn (GBR) 1:46:14 3:29:11 1:42:57 -197

Vebster, Sanja (SLO) 1:50:57 3:38:44 1:47:47 -190

Mora, Noelia (ESP) 1:41:24 3:19:40 1:38:16 -188

CHERUIYOT, Vivian (KEN) 1:11:38 2:20:14 1:08:36 -182

Hunt, Laura (GBR) 1:46:29 3:29:57 1:43:28 -181

Bogantes, Diana (CRC) 1:25:04 2:47:08 1:22:04 -180

These two are impressive.

headwinds wrote:

According to the BBC commentary, she didn't take a single drink the entire race.

I can believe she can finish a marathon like that (I couldn't), and it was a fairly cool day, but how can zero nutrition possibly be optimal?

She definitely took drink early on. Skipped the last bottle.

I was there watching the 2nd half and don’t remember it being windy at all.

Finally someone besides Mary targeting the ancient 2:15:25 which was done by a possibly doped runner, so why the fuss if you THINK Kosegi guilty?

VIPAM wrote:

Finally someone besides Mary targeting the ancient 2:15:25 which was done by a possibly doped runner, so why the fuss if you THINK Kosegi guilty?

Possibly? If she was Russian, she would've been dethroned by now as the record holder.

Little doubt in my head wrote:

VIPAM wrote:

Finally someone besides Mary targeting the ancient 2:15:25 which was done by a possibly doped runner, so why the fuss if you THINK Kosegi guilty?

Possibly? If she was Russian, she would've been dethroned by now as the record holder.

She got lucky that her buddy Coe just became president when that scandal broke.

How is it possible that all these uber doped African women can't catch Paula? Even if Paula was doped too.

I thought East Africans were superior?

Probably because Paula is mutant. ?