Can anyone explain Kipchoge’s consistency ?

Ggggg wrote:

Subway Surfers wrote:

He trains properly.

And all the others, some of which train with him, don’t train properly??

He is the only one who trains properly in Kenya and Ethiopia ?

All the others never ran 2:01 so I'd say no they don't.

Also remember that it's not just the training, it's the lifestyle.

jiaaf wrote:

faaij wrote:

Thank you jiaaf for actually proving you know nothing about what discipline, training the mind and focus can do when added to massive natural talent.

You know damn well that you are just butthurt that an African beats your heroes by minutes.

I have no heroes and I am happy that Africans are the most talented runners. That is why Renato goes there. They have the most talent. To be dominant like Kipchoge you have tremendous talent, tremendous work ethic and tremendous drugs.

Like I said, you are just butthurt.

ha! :D Love it!

You are so stupid. I suppose you would have called me "butthurt" when I knew Lance was using drugs. I fail to see the connection between my superior intelligence and being "butthurt."

jiaaf wrote:

You are so stupid. I suppose you would have called me "butthurt" when I knew Lance was using drugs. I fail to see the connection between my superior intelligence and being "butthurt."

I am not stupid and you don't possess superior intelligence. :)

Have fun, butthurt troll.

Great runners (including Africans) FTW! and loving the butthurt "everyone not white is on drugs" trolls like you :D

faaij wrote:

jiaaf wrote:

You are so stupid. I suppose you would have called me "butthurt" when I knew Lance was using drugs. I fail to see the connection between my superior intelligence and being "butthurt."

I am not stupid and you don't possess superior intelligence. :)

Have fun, butthurt troll.

Great runners (including Africans) FTW! and loving the butthurt "everyone not white is on drugs" trolls like you :D

You could not be further from the truth. Coevett is as stupid as you are. Race is irrelevant except the Africans are the most talented runners.

jiaaf wrote:

faaij wrote:

I am not stupid and you don't possess superior intelligence. :)

Have fun, butthurt troll.

Great runners (including Africans) FTW! and loving the butthurt "everyone not white is on drugs" trolls like you :D

You could not be further from the truth. Coevett is as stupid as you are. Race is irrelevant except the Africans are the most talented runners.

Ignoring the fact that you have just called me stupid (again), I give you the benefit of the doubt when it comes to skin color. Still, I don't like that all successful results are now tainted by doping accusations like yours.

Peace.

Dope

Bad Wigins wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

If I understand the posts correctly, that's the shoes.

Rather than try to explain the mechanics again, this time I'll just point out that multiple runners were going 2:03 before these "4% shoes" existed, but nobody at all is going the 1:58 they should be if the shoes actually worked.

For everyone but Kipchoge, the progression has remained gradual. From 2:03:low to 2:02:5x over many years. Do boost shoes only work for him?

He levitates due to his ability to command the forces of nature.

The shoes comment was meant to be facetious. But if he levitates - defies the forces of gravity - it is because of his ability to command the forces of the laboratory rather than nature. There is always a banal explanation for every apparent trick of magic.

Clean may sometimes beat doped, if the clean athlete has the greatly superior natural ability, but it doesn't get around the fact that the best who doped - like Armstrong, Jones and Johnson - beat everybody. And sometimes even those who weren't the best amongst the dopers beat whatever clean competition they faced. Rashid Ramzi. The logic is clear. Doping would not be the big business that it is if it didn't confer significant advantage for those who use it.

every pro marathoner only races twice a year

So you are saying Canseco, Ben Johnson, are "nice guys"?

I'm not following your logic. Try to be logically consistent when making an argument.

At the end of the day, if you believe he's a cheat, nothing will convince you.

If you believe he's clean, he's clean.

In the world of professional sports, nobody really knows.

At the end, it's sports entertainment.

All we want is a champion who can

1) A great embassador of the sport

2) Represent the ideals of the sport ON/OFF the field

3) Gracious in defeat

4) live the lifestyle that everyone can aspire to be.

5) Be yourself and not be fake.

What more do you want from a champion like Kipchoge?

People like Galen Rupp, Mo Farah, Ronaldo, Tiger Woods, John Jones are all hypocrites. They want to be adored, but lives an entitled lifestyle and treat people like crap. Everyone knows it for those who know them.

Kipchoge is none of that.

But we just love to smear him of his success by doping allegations because that's all the haters have left to hate on.

web2dot0 wrote:

At the end, it's sports entertainment.

Like the WWE?

So what you're saying is, maybe wresting is real, maybe not. We don't know. Kayfabe.

Yes, like the WWE. It is entertainment.

Tickets are sold to event. Subscriptions are paid for television and media.

Athletes fake injuries, talk trash, and create drama.

At the end of the day, it is entertainment, and Kipchoge is the greatest artist we have seen.

EPO!!!!! “Look at they eyes chico, they never lie...”

Setting aside doping allegations, I have always thought that Kipchoge is built a little bit differently from the other E. Africans. He is a bit more muscular from his hips down to the middle of his femur. His adductors and the upper half of his quads always seem to have a bit more bulk that the other E. Africans who have more pencil straight upper legs. combined with his indisputably perfect form, I think this gives him a bit more strength in his stride that translates to better efficiency and greater glycogen stores.

Also, he has pretty much been running the same style of race for the past few years. Very fast pace and flat course. He is able to control the race because he can put on very long surges in pace without any harm to his ability to maintain his pace. On a hilly course with more drastic and short surges (like NY), he might not be able to dominate so easily. But then again, he might.

take the honkpill wrote:

Countless East Africans busted for doping?

"I'm sure the ones still competing are clean though!"

Corrupt coaches and agents explicitly linked to doping?

"That's no guarantee that all their athletes dope!"

Men with 5 o'clock shadow and receding hairlines winning junior races?

"Life is just harder over there, they age faster!"

Proof that EPO is available over the counter and drug testing is nonexistent?

"Still doesn't mean they're cheating! They ran 20 miles to school every day!"

Cheater shoes with literal springs in them?

"Hey they only improve efficiency by 4%, they don't make you 4% faster!"

HONK HONK.

Cross-posting a $hit tier /pol/ meme on a hobbyjogger forum...embarrassing is an understatement. Do you call things “based” and “redpilled” in real life too?

web2dot0 wrote:

All we want is a champion who can

1) A great embassador of the sport

2) Represent the ideals of the sport ON/OFF the field

3) Gracious in defeat

4) live the lifestyle that everyone can aspire to be.

5) Be yourself and not be fake.

What more do you want from a champion like Kipchoge?

You might think his lifestyle inspiring, but many people on this board do not. Their ideal lifestyle is "train hard and party hard." Steve Jones is their hero. Kipchoge is an annoying nerd who doesn't know how to enjoy life. They don't want to live their life like a monk, although deep down they know it will make them faster. So they direct their animosity to the ultimate monk of distance running.