Grades not good enough for cmu, Tufts, Brandeis or connect college. Any recommendations?
Goal is to improve my running. Totally undecided in major.
Not looking for$
Grades not good enough for cmu, Tufts, Brandeis or connect college. Any recommendations?
Goal is to improve my running. Totally undecided in major.
Not looking for$
What are your grades and times?
3.3 unweighted and my practice SAT is 1190
Mile is 4:35 2 mile 9:58 both indoor off of 25-30mpw
Good schools to check out:
- William and Mary
- Tulane
- Rice
You'll improve at any collegiate program given that background as long as you dont overtraining (gradual mileage increases) or lose passion for the sport. Find a campus fit and meet the team.
I misread the 'not good enough' part. I apologize.
Work hard and believe in your training, you can improve wherever if you apply yourself!
Ultra10K5K100K wrote:
Good schools to check out:
- William and Mary
- Tulane
- Rice
Since when is rice or Tulane east coast?
Op you can run at Nova LaSalle NYU maybe Stonybrook or Iona.
Ultra running oxymoron wrote:
Ultra10K5K100K wrote:
Good schools to check out:
- William and Mary
- Tulane
- Rice
Since when is rice or Tulane east coast?
Op you can run at Nova LaSalle NYU maybe Stonybrook or Iona.
Lol a 4:35/9:58 guy is not going to be able to run at any of those schools. Without good grades he won't cut it for even a bad D1 school except maybe St. Bonaventure. I would strongly recommend the OP to look at D3 schools that are a stretch academically where the coach might be able to give him a little help getting in.
Bentley Univ (d2)
Wash U st Louis
Colorado college
UCSD
Bowdoin
Bates
Colby
J Balvin wrote:
Wash U st Louis
Colorado college
UCSD
you dont know how tough it is to get into washu.
Have you considered Penn St? They have a good engineering program.
LaSalle
Saint Joseph s
Saint Francis
Rider
Monmouth
Dickinson D3
WV
Sienna
PSU
Dickinson
Shippensburg
Widener
Slippery Rock
St. Lawrence
Geneseo
Allegheny
These programs vary widely academically, but have good coaches who will help you improve. With your mileage, you have a lot of room to get faster. I'd avoid D1 to be honest. You'll either be at a low level program with poor coaching or be walking on. At D2/D3 you can go to a program with a good coach, good tradition, and work your way into the scoring 7.
OP, try your best to go D1 if you can. No such thing as a good D3 school, they are all marginally better than high school and very few guys develop.
Geneseo would be a good option, but I worry about your grades not being high enough to get in as your practice SAT score is right about the 25th percentile. They also have a good D3 team, so being a mid 4:30s guy might not help you much on the admissions side.
But if you did get in, it would seem like a good fit. Academics are strong, but not so overwhelming that you would be out of place. They have one of the better D3 distance programs, but probably not so good that they wouldn't bring you onto the team.
As to the development comment regarding D3, it really depends on the program, which is true of any school, regardless of division. I ran D3 at Albany and we had success developing athletes, as have many of the good D3 programs. I dropped over a minute in the 5k during my college career and my teammate dropped almost 30 seconds in the steeplechase over his career. I also watched a teammate go from being at right about your level to being a 14:50/31:00 guy, which is a nice progression. It all depends on the coach, and there is so much data available in this day and age that seeing how athletes progress is easy enough.
hot singles in your town wrote:
Dickinson
Shippensburg
Widener
Slippery Rock
St. Lawrence
Geneseo
Allegheny
These programs vary widely academically, but have good coaches who will help you improve. With your mileage, you have a lot of room to get faster. I'd avoid D1 to be honest. You'll either be at a low level program with poor coaching or be walking on. At D2/D3 you can go to a program with a good coach, good tradition, and work your way into the scoring 7.
Kid, if you are running 25-30 a week and sub-10 you will improve anywhere. But if you are not serious about school you will not fit in on most good D3s.
If you are not elite school material, Elizabethtown and Messiah are better than 4 of those teams. Looks like Messiah loses a bunch of seniors and Etown had just 1 last fall...
https://www.tfrrs.org/results/xc/15026/NCAA_Division_III_Mideast_Region_Cross_Country_Championships#104607with Messiah, jesus culture better be your thing.
Stevenson is not bad. they are also losing some good seniors.
Allegheny is down a little right now:
https://www.tfrrs.org/results/xc/14518/NCAA_Division_III_Great_Lakes_Region_Cross_Country_Championships#104619St. Law and Geneseo are good every year.
I would suggest any of the Atlantic 10 conference schools (URI, George Mason, St Joseph, UMass, St Bonaventure, Duquesne, etc). They are all D1 schools.
C/M Runner wrote:
I would suggest any of the Atlantic 10 conference schools (URI, George Mason, St Joseph, UMass, St Bonaventure, Duquesne, etc). They are all D1 schools.
He'd have a tough time with Umass and URI
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