There is a women's only race in my towm. Should I sue to gain entry?

You should probably look for a " Not an A$$Hole-5k" race to bandit.

sign up for it and ride a bike. That just about epitomizes your lack of courtesy or understand - and in your case, both.

why wrote:

why would you want to do this? just to be a prick?

That's obvious

why wrote:

why would you want to do this? just to be a p*****?

He’s trying to make a point I suspect. Our culture teaches that the sexes are 100%equal, that sexual integration must happen in all places and all times - except only for men. Women are still able to do their own thing. He doesn’t like the undeniable hypocrisy of it.

That said this is a very poor way to prove ones point, as women should not be asked to compete against men.

About 20 years ago, in the Twin Cities, a man sued the Bruegger's Run for Women for discrimination. He was allowed to race (he didn't finish anywhere near the front), but a year or so later, the race folded, in part because of the threat of lawsuits. It was sad. It had a been a really great race for women (was formerly the Bonne Bell 10k).

Photoshop Johnny Manziel’s wife’s head on to your body.

Or you gain entry to Sue.

Please sue sue wrote:

The men are the ones who should sue. Why do women deserve to be compensating for lesser performances than men? Is that how it is in the workplace? Do you have lower sales quotas for women or do you have lower numbers of students that women have to teach or do you have lower output numbers on a production line for women? Why should a woman who runs 16 minutes be paid the same as a man who runs 14 minutes while all of the guys running 15 minutes get nothing? Good luck. You will bring the house of cards down.

Onbviously you are unaware that women are physically slower because their bodies are designed for childbirth, therefore we have different sports categories for them. This doesn’t affect workplace performance, since many women outperform men in the workplace, even when given lower opportunities.

You and the OP should simply admit that you hate women and wish to control and dominate them. You are incapable of u sets a ding the barriers to female sports participation (harassment, threats, role-stereotyping, etc) therefore I think you should simply enter one of the many mens’ health type men only events there are around. Or events for gay men. These would be ideal for you.

In answer to the OP’s further points, I have actually been that woman who missed out on prizes when finishing top three because there was only one women’s prize and five (or six men’s prizes). Apparently due to greater numbers of male entrants. Yet the top two women finishers were internationally ranked pro athletes in some of those races, whereas none of the men were. I would have had to finish in the top nine in the men’s race to get a third place Women’s prize in one of those races. I actually finished thirteenth. The quality of the woman’s field was higher based on national rankings, but the organisers decided to base prizes on numbers, not quality.

Yet when another local race one year had more female entries than male, top three prizes were awarded to both categories!

But I think you’ll find, as numerous posters have pointed out, that you are in fact able to enter women only races. Not that you’ll do it, because you’re one of those people who likes to make a lot of noise but when it comes to running, your efforts tend to be of the meak and mild variety.

Or wrote:

Or you gain entry to Sue.

Well done.

I will contribute that there are boys named “Sue” as well. But that is a relatively weak add-on to a great post.

Idiots, it's not about women's times being slower. It's the fact that for every driven female runner there are 7-10 driven male runners. For women, simply having a bit of interest in running is likely to get you on some podiums in local races.

Bored Hearing From Slow Misogynists wrote:

Onbviously you are unaware that women are physically slower because their bodies are designed for childbirth, therefore we have different sports categories for them. This doesn’t affect workplace performance, since many women outperform men in the workplace, even when given lower opportunities.

You and the OP should simply admit that you hate women and wish to control and dominate them. You are incapable of u sets a ding the barriers to female sports participation (harassment, threats, role-stereotyping, etc) therefore I think you should simply enter one of the many mens’ health type men only events there are around. Or events for gay men. These would be ideal for you.

Obviously you are unaware that these sorts of arguments can be applied to any sort of runner. For example Bekele's body is better designed for running than mine is therefore I should not be having to compete in the same category as Bekele or some Kenyan so a category should be made for me etc etc. Beyond sexism, there is zero justification for having sex categories in a sport like distance running, in the same way that there is no justification for having age categories. Everyone should be encouraged to run regardless of their age and gender, but when it comes to awarding prizes this should be based on where you finish in a race also regardless of your age or gender.

This has nothing to do with one gender wanting to dominate another, in fact it's the complete opposite - it is about treating the different genders equally. If a woman outperforms a man in the workplace then yes she should be paid/awarded more accordingly and companies who don't do this should be sued.

tired of sytematic sexism against men wrote:

...If a woman outperforms a man in the workplace then yes she should be paid/awarded more accordingly and companies who don't do this should be sued.

No, the mythical company in the sky that does that would go out of business or would seriously underperform. No need to sue. The market works pretty well.

HGCgvhghvghv wrote:

tired of sytematic sexism against men wrote:

...If a woman outperforms a man in the workplace then yes she should be paid/awarded more accordingly and companies who don't do this should be sued.

No, the mythical company in the sky that does that would go out of business or would seriously underperform. No need to sue. The market works pretty well.

On the flip side, a company that would try to have the same number of males and females in every position and would make sure that men and women get the same pay (ignoring output, quality....), simply based on gender would seriously underperform or would go out of business.

You can have that type of policy in a police force or some other not for profit business. Women can more easily get a job as a cop (simply because they are women). As a result, you obviously don't get the more qualified people (since the hiring was biased), but the police force is not for profit, so no harm done (well...).

Yeah yeah... and there should be a magazine called Ivory, and why don't straight people have pride parades???

Weakest question ever. If you're a troll, it shows that you have no sense - dumb suggestions like this actually appeal to some who've never taken a grade 9 history course.

lawsuit larry wrote:

Or perhaps pull a Kathryn Switzer?

Presuming you're not trolling :

- don't be a jerk. There are lots of biological and psychological differences between men and women. Women are wonderful amazing humans. And yes, they're on average, smaller and not as strong as men. Don't harm the vast majority of women by pulling the "identify as a girl" fraud.

- do show up and volunteer.

- by your leisure suit reference, sounds like you're older-ish. I've watched folks who've been freed of things real to worry about, to focus on minutia. Stuff like frivolous lawsuits. Don't become that person.

Go run another 5k - of which there are seemingly millions of them - get your endorphin high, and be happy with life.

You're correct. Lets forget about the fact that Bekele isn't designed to give birth and doesn't have breasts, a wide pelvis, smaller heart, have periods, be smaller on average than a man, etc..

I say we just give men all the prizes! Lets forget about half the population, the female half, who will be mostly, with some exceptions, be unable to win anything in athletics ever again, and just give all the prizes to men! That way, slow men will win prizes previously won by women.

Better still, lets just have a fast mens and a slower men's category.

Extra random prizes for who writes the same message on internet sites on a regular basis, annoyed that yet another woman has beaten them and won a prize in their local Turkey Trot.

Heres an example; "ITS UNFAIR WOMEN ARE HOLDING ME BACK THEY STEAL ALL THE PRIZES AND JOBS THAT I MIGHT OTHERWISE GET BECAUSE THEY GET UNFAIR OPPORTUNTIES (insert here some random and rambling pseudo attempt at justification).

Personally, I think they should give out prizes to those people actually forced to listen to this pathetic drivel from yet another slow male runner who is jealous of faster women winning prizes. I mean that seriously. Its that bad. Cant you just go out and train or something and get a bit faster instead of obsessing over what women who actually do so are doing? Do you really hate us that much that it takes over your entire running schedule and you spend hours thinking about it?

And further bonus prize for when you actually come up with your own arguments, instead of trying lamely to turn other people's around.

"Women-only races are beneficial because of physical and social constraints that apply to women". "No, MEN only races are beneficial because of what MEN have to go through".

"Women still suffer inequality and discrimination which we have evidence for" "No, MEN suffer inequality and discrimination because of measures put in place to ensure women don't".

"The sky is blue because of scientific facts proven". "No, the sky is red because of discrimination against blue skies".

and on. and on.

Go and train and get faster with your strong male body.

As many others have pointed out, you can probably enter if you like. If you are slow, say 9 mpm or slower, feel free to do do. If you're faster than that, let the fast women have that one day when they can actually lead a race.

lawsuit larry wrote:

Or perhaps pull a Kathryn Switzer?

This is what I suggest. Enter as "lawsuit leslie", wear lulumon capris, a sports bra, and a pink visor. If any of their hired goons try to remove you, take the story to Runners World. It is widely known that RW only wants what is fair and right.