Japanese Marathoners - Why are they so much better than the Americans?

They sucked today.

Last I checked Rupp and Meb have medals and the Japanese have ZERO.

This gives you a good idea.

http://bobhodge.us/running-logs/takayuki-inubushi/

It is high volume. easy mileage super easy(see above, 2:06 marathoner doing his easy runs at a 5 minute kilometer pace), workouts hard.

Why is Australia better than both the Japanese and Americans in the half marathon? What is their secret?

Run a lot wrote:

This gives you a good idea.

http://bobhodge.us/running-logs/takayuki-inubushi/

It is high volume. easy mileage super easy(see above, 2:06 marathoner doing his easy runs at a 5 minute kilometer pace), workouts hard.

Thank you

your answer: The extremely few individuals of a good sized American running talent is doing the marathon

llljl wrote:

They sucked today.

Last I checked Rupp and Meb have medals and the Japanese have ZERO.

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Soooo, now you're including the womens side too? Interesting.

By the way, do you have any idea how many medals the US has won over the last 100 years since you're willing to go back that far?

Please enlighten me as to which Aussie runners have faster half marathon times than the US top times.

Perhaps I missed these results.

lkhlh wrote:

Ignorant of history wrote:

Soooo, now you're including the womens side too? Interesting.

Since when has they been limited to men?

Let's go all away back to 1896 and count all the medals since.

Japan total medal count in the marathon: 9(only two are from "a hundred years ago" and they are from the 1936 Olympics.)

America total medal count: 13(6 of which are from the 1904, 1908 and 1912 Olympics, was Japan even in these Olympics?)

Japan, almost has a hundred sub 2:10(or is it 2:09?) marathoners.

US only has a few when you only include legitimate courses.

Japan development of women is superior to that of the US. Japan on the women's side has 4 Olympic medalist vs 2 Olympic medalist on the American women side. The difference is very noticeable when you look at the world championship games. Japan on the women's side has 11 world championship medalist vs only two on the American side.

Because their knee grows?

Ignorant of history wrote:

Let's go all away back to 1896 and count all the medals since.

Japan total medal count in the marathon: 9(only two are from "a hundred years ago" and they are from the 1936 Olympics.)

America total medal count: 13(6 of which are from the 1904, 1908 and 1912 Olympics, was Japan even in these Olympics?)

Correct: America 13 Japan 9

Top 3 US runners:

Ryan Hall: 2:04

Khalid Khannouchi: 2:05:38

Galen Rupp: 2:06:07

Top Japanese runner ever: 2:05:50

2nd 2:06:11

Japan does not compare to the US

End of story

Again another thread that has potential to actually help someone learn something about running and it degrades to stupid jokes, arguments over the question being asked, and only one real post that answers anything to open discussion.

Why the f ck is letsrun like this... Jesus Christ can't we have a section for only registered posters for actual discussion?

“Japan produced more sub-2:08 and sub-2:09 marathoners in 2018 than the United States has in its entire history.”

Facts. True, America is better when it counts and we have had the absolute fastest person vs. Japan for some time, so I agree that the US has been better in some regard but obviously Japan has way more depth than the US. They have a culture of road racing and marathoning that we just can’t beat. If NCAA elites put everything into the marathon and eikidens then I think we would blow them out the water. We absolutely crush in the 800, mile, 5K versus them. Their mile record is 3:56. So everyone has their strengths

qqqq wrote:

Why is Australia better than both the Japanese and Americans in the half marathon? What is their secret?

They are NOT

According to Tilastopaja the 1000th fastest Marathon time is 61:35

1. Kenya 562 men have run that fast or faster

2. Ethiopia 33

3. Japan 48

4. Morroco 29

5. South Africa 26

6. Eritrea 25

7. Tanzania 24

8. USA 19

9. Great Briain 14

10. Uganda 13

11. Italy 12

12. Brazil and Portugal 10 Each

14. Australia 9

douglas burke wrote:

qqqq wrote:

Why is Australia better than both the Japanese and Americans in the half marathon? What is their secret?

They are NOT

According to Tilastopaja the 1000th fastest Marathon time is 61:35

1. Kenya 562 men have run that fast or faster

2. Ethiopia 33

3. Japan 48

4. Morroco 29

5. South Africa 26

6. Eritrea 25

7. Tanzania 24

8. USA 19

9. Great Briain 14

10. Uganda 13

11. Italy 12

12. Brazil and Portugal 10 Each

14. Australia 9

What does 61:35 have to do with anything?

If that poster is talking about 2019, then yes Australia has faster times than the US in the half.

what is that? wrote:

douglas burke wrote:

They are NOT

According to Tilastopaja the 1000th fastest Marathon time is 61:35

1. Kenya 562 men have run that fast or faster

2. Ethiopia 33

3. Japan 48

4. Morroco 29

5. South Africa 26

6. Eritrea 25

7. Tanzania 24

8. USA 19

9. Great Briain 14

10. Uganda 13

11. Italy 12

12. Brazil and Portugal 10 Each

14. Australia 9

What does 61:35 have to do with anything?

If that poster is talking about 2019, then yes Australia has faster times than the US in the half.

The list is the Number of Men who are in Tilastopajs top 1000, Most of the NON African countries get smaller and smaller every year. As for 2018 it is only 2 months old, I rank the countries based on All Time List.

Japanese runners train from a very young age to compete in long road races (ekiden). The best of their runners eventually become very solid marathoners who are nevertheless internationally irrelevant. No major wins other than Yuki’s fluke Boston, and few top major placings. Incidentally, their most competitive runner these days is Suguro Osako, who has lived and trained in the US for years under Pete Julian.

On the other hand, they are utterly noncompetitive at distance/mid-d track. Their national records are bad, and they don’t even have runners who can hold their own in Diamond League caliber fields. The US fares much, much, much better in this regard, and frankly has a similar or better degree of success at big time marathons, though undeniably much less marathoning depth.

Run a lot wrote:

This gives you a good idea.

http://bobhodge.us/running-logs/takayuki-inubushi/

It is high volume. easy mileage super easy(see above, 2:06 marathoner doing his easy runs at a 5 minute kilometer pace), workouts hard.

It looks like he was frequently tripling with "Morning", AM, and PM runs?