Not a Native wrote:
And they are building more bicycle/pedestrian underpasses this year and up until 2021.
Who killed Jon Benet Ramsey?
The community of Boulder did.
You're all guilty.
Not a Native wrote:
And they are building more bicycle/pedestrian underpasses this year and up until 2021.
Who killed Jon Benet Ramsey?
The community of Boulder did.
You're all guilty.
INCORRECT!!!!! wrote:
States of priority wrote:
Colorado>Florida >>California
Nope! It’s Colorado >>> Oregon > Hawai’i > California > Washington > Arizona > Alaska > Montana > Utah > Idaho > Vermont > New Hampshire > Maine >New York > Wisconsin > Michigan > Illinois > >>>>>>>>> all the remaining states which, if you are able to be objective and honest with yourself, are sh!tholes. All the remaining states are basically unliveable due to horrible weather and horrible people. Utah would be higher—perhaps even above Colorado, if it were not home to the American Taliban that dominates almost every aspect of that state.
If you’re a runner & like to be outdoors and, again, are not delusional, then the above is 100% correct.
Agree.
S. Canaday wrote:
Honestly I think the altitude training thing is a bit overrated. Boulder is a tad low....but you can easily drive up the canyon in the summer and run from Rollinsville or Mags or around Ned (and if you are a trail mountain runner) hit over 11,000' on the trails pretty fast. I have a pretty low Vo2max and I actually always suffer quite a bit when running marathon pace or faster (i.e. doing Tempo Runs or Interval workouts.....usual conversion is about 10sec/mile slower at 5300'.) This can be an issue with leg turnover sometimes, but I'm a slow ultra runner so it really doesn't matter that much.
I was a bit jealous of the altitude of Flagstaff (7,000') for sleeping and training....mainly because they have access to lower elevations and warmer weather in the Phoenix area. Then again I was in Flagstaff last week and there was this terrible blizzard and it snowed like 2.5 feet in 2 days.
And who said the beer in MI is better than CO?! Only decent breweries I found when living in MI were Bell's and Founder's. Denver metro area alone (and Boulder) has amazing beer (um, Avery!).
Yeah, we get some super cold and snowy days in Boulder. There is a lot of wind and ice too. But I think winters here are way more mild than when I lived and trained in MI and NY. Boulder is for sure "overrated" in a lot of regards...but you can say that about any cool city.
The fact that the market has dictated what is "high priced" shows that for many it is a desirable place to live. And no, I am far from a" trust fund pro athlete" (there are lots in Boulder for sure though). Rojo knows how much financial aid I got to go to Cornell ....where I was considered "high need" because my parents are certainly not rich (at least compared to the average student at that kind of private university). No, I moved to Boulder 6.5 years ago with a few thousand dollars in total life savings/assets and no sponsorship. Did the whole sharing a room in a house thing paying $600-800/month in rent (this was back in 2012)....moved around half a dozen times. It is a fairly high standard of living (i.e. more expensive than the vast majority of US cities)..but I think it is worth it. You have to like a city for more than just the running side of life.
equities in dallas wrote:
Honest question - I live at sea level and am considering moving to Boulder. Is it hard to adjust to running slower because of the altitude? Frustrating to do everything a little slower? Or is the altitude too low to make that much difference?
Stay in your lane, Sage. Jolly Pumpkin in Ann Arbor makes far better beer than Avery. Outside of some of the taproom exclusive sours that Avery makes their beer is pretty mediocre.
Cruisin’ USA Yeah! (Super Nintendo/N64) wrote:
Creek Path Hero wrote:
You're leaving out how city policies have artificially restricted housing stock, especially on the affordable end of the spectrum.
problem is there will probably won’t be anything most would consider “affordable” unless it’s subsidized by the city and if so it is then part of the program where appreciation is capped at a certain percentage a year to keep it in the affordable program. also can’t rent it out (or at least you’re not supposed to). while the policy is well-intended, it may take certain structures out of the market rate housing supply thereby further limiting supply, so could be just a feel-good measure to benefit existing owners/landlords.
There's also an exemption (loophole) that developers seem to exploit far more often than is intended.
Running Expert wrote:
Stay in your lane, Sage. Jolly Pumpkin in Ann Arbor makes far better beer than Avery. Outside of some of the taproom exclusive sours that Avery makes their beer is pretty mediocre.
I've had Jolly Pumpkin. WeldWerks is better across the board. As mentioned previously on this thread, it's roundly considered the best in CO.
Plus it's not just WeldWerks and Avery, CO has Odell, Mountain Sun, Ska, Oskar Blues, Crooked Stave, Paradox, Black Project, Bootstrap, Wibby, and we'll just leave it there so this list doesn't get ridiculous. MI surely has great beer outside of Bell's, Founders, and JP, but it's not even close to CO yet. Hey, Detroit's on the comeback trail, right? So there's hope.
At what point does a place become overrated? When 20-30 others have bragged to you about it how great it is? If I were Timothy McVeigh (the unabomber) and I set up an off grid tiny home in Idaho with an outhouse and I plastered my Facebook account of pictures of it telling you why it would be so great to move here, would it make the whole 25 sq miles surrounding it overrated?
Overrated? Or overhyped? wrote:
At what point does a place become overrated? When 20-30 others have bragged to you about it how great it is? If I were Timothy McVeigh (the unabomber) and I set up an off grid tiny home in Idaho with an outhouse and I plastered my Facebook account of pictures of it telling you why it would be so great to move here, would it make the whole 25 sq miles surrounding it overrated?
Moran, Timothy McVeigh was the OKC bomber. Ted Kaczynski was the UNABOMBER.
Agreeable Amos wrote:
INCORRECT!!!!! wrote:
Nope! It’s Colorado >>> Oregon > Hawai’i > California > Washington > Arizona > Alaska > Montana > Utah > Idaho > Vermont > New Hampshire > Maine >New York > Wisconsin > Michigan > Illinois > >>>>>>>>> all the remaining states which, if you are able to be objective and honest with yourself, are sh!tholes. All the remaining states are basically unliveable due to horrible weather and horrible people. Utah would be higher—perhaps even above Colorado, if it were not home to the American Taliban that dominates almost every aspect of that state.
If you’re a runner & like to be outdoors and, again, are not delusional, then the above is 100% correct.
Agree.
Posts like the above helped elect Trump.
I have lived in NV, IL, MA, MD, CO, WV, and OK. Best cycling scene was OK. Best running, MA. I love Colorado but Front Range traffic is absolutely atrocious.
IMO, Boulder is Disneyland for rich hippies. Its cool for a Sunday ride but living there just isn't sustainable for most.
There are good interesting people everywhere. There are opinionated hacks everywhere. Do what you can to make your corner of the world better.
Huckz wrote:
I love Colorado but Front Range traffic is absolutely atrocious for snowflakes.
IMO, Boulder is Disneyland for rich hippies. Its cool for a Sunday ride but living there just isn't sustainable for most snowflakes.
Fixed
Try running in South Florida for a few months, and then in other parts of the country for a few months as well.
Nowhere, I repeat, nowhere sucks as much as South Florida for running. The eternal year-long heat and humidity are so brutal that Boulder will definitely seem like heaven once you get back.
On top of that, South Florida has few places to run and is flat as a pancake.
CallMeCaitlyn wrote:
Not a Native wrote:
And they are building more bicycle/pedestrian underpasses this year and up until 2021.
Who killed Jon Benet Ramsey?
The community of Boulder did.
You're all guilty.
The guy in Bramble and Hare murderer who didn’t wanna run BolderBoulder ? I dunno
Snowflake Elite wrote:
Huckz wrote:
I love Colorado but Front Range traffic is absolutely atrocious for snowflakes.
IMO, Boulder is Disneyland for rich hippies. Its cool for a Sunday ride but living there just isn't sustainable for most snowflakes.
Fixed
Isnt Boulder full of “snowflakes?” (i.e. soft liberals)
CallMeCaitlyn wrote:
Not a Native wrote:
And they are building more bicycle/pedestrian underpasses this year and up until 2021.
Who killed Jon Benet Ramsey?
The community of Boulder did.
You're all guilty.
One less kiddie pageant family in town, multiple added bike/ped underpasses in town. I'll take that trade-off!
It’s like butter baby wrote:
Snowflake Elite wrote:
Fixed
Isnt Boulder full of “snowflakes?” (i.e. soft liberals)
Great point. Fixed.
Jason Rexing's Trainers wrote:
Running Expert wrote:
Stay in your lane, Sage. Jolly Pumpkin in Ann Arbor makes far better beer than Avery. Outside of some of the taproom exclusive sours that Avery makes their beer is pretty mediocre.
I've had Jolly Pumpkin. WeldWerks is better across the board. As mentioned previously on this thread, it's roundly considered the best in CO.
Plus it's not just WeldWerks and Avery, CO has Odell, Mountain Sun, Ska, Oskar Blues, Crooked Stave, Paradox, Black Project, Bootstrap, Wibby, and we'll just leave it there so this list doesn't get ridiculous. MI surely has great beer outside of Bell's, Founders, and JP, but it's not even close to CO yet. Hey, Detroit's on the comeback trail, right? So there's hope.
Colorado has much better beer than MI overall. Black project is making some of the best sours in the country right now and WW owns the pastry stout game. Sage was talking about Boulder which has pretty mediocre breweries.
Running expert wrote:
Sage was talking about Boulder which has pretty mediocre breweries.
Except you're incorrect on both counts:
Sage actually said:
And who said the beer in MI is better than CO?! Only decent breweries I found when living in MI were Bell's and Founder's. Denver metro area alone (and Boulder) has amazing beer (um, Avery!).
Avery, Upslope, Mountain Sun, Cellar West all stack up well against offerings from any city of similar size if not larger anywhere in the USA. Even Twisted Pine would be the best brewery in most towns of that size in MI. If all you know of Boulder breweries is Boulder Beer, Fate, Sanitas, or West Flanders then you're a dumb tourist and you don't know jack squat.
I agree that Florida is horrible for runners The high schools have practice after school when it is 85-95 degrees most every practice. When they race, even in the morning, it's at least 75 degrees with 95-99 % humidity. Yeah, other states might have these conditions for a few weeks, but we have them almost all year long.
prospectrunner wrote:
Really? What about the Tinmen? Or Roots?
Funrunners and Hobbyracers all. To a man.
Huckz wrote:
Agreeable Amos wrote:
Agree.
Posts like the above helped elect Trump.
I have lived in NV, IL, MA, MD, CO, WV, and OK. Best cycling scene was OK. Best running, MA. I love Colorado but Front Range traffic is absolutely atrocious.
IMO, Boulder is Disneyland for rich hippies. Its cool for a Sunday ride but living there just isn't sustainable for most.
There are good interesting people everywhere. There are opinionated hacks everywhere. Do what you can to make your corner of the world better.
Yes, and posts like yours helped defeat corrupt Hillary. Thanks!
Jason Rexing's Trainers wrote:
Running expert wrote:
Sage was talking about Boulder which has pretty mediocre breweries.
Except you're incorrect on both counts:
Sage actually said:
And who said the beer in MI is better than CO?! Only decent breweries I found when living in MI were Bell's and Founder's. Denver metro area alone (and Boulder) has amazing beer (um, Avery!).
Avery, Upslope, Mountain Sun, Cellar West all stack up well against offerings from any city of similar size if not larger anywhere in the USA. Even Twisted Pine would be the best brewery in most towns of that size in MI. If all you know of Boulder breweries is Boulder Beer, Fate, Sanitas, or West Flanders then you're a dumb tourist and you don't know jack squat.
Why Boulder Awesome->
almost everything in boulder is only a short and pleasant maybe 1-5 mi bike ride or run away from you through the extensive bike path and trail network wherever you live in the city. By car sometimes it can take longer but only when the fbckbag commuters and their predicted traffic patterns are out and in full motion.
that’s also why traffic’s only really bad if you’re some commuter who lives in Erie, Firestone, Frederick, or Dacono trying to get into and out of Boulder at rush hour daily for work via Jay Rd, Arapahoe, Foothills onto 36, or Diagonal or 63rd St as a bumper to bumper stop sign shortcut at 5pm. Of course all you do is complain how traffic in Boulder sucks balls for you. What did you expect by choosing to live out there and then taking a job in Boulder?
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