Jakob Ingebrigtsen takes down WR holder Samuel Tefera (and his big brother) in battle of teenage stars in Dusseldorf 1500

El Keniano wrote:

Coevett wrote:

El K is the guy who has repeatedly called for ALL foreigners to be kicked out of Kenya, made disparaging remarks about Ethiopians being 'good for nothing', and suggested that West Africans have lower IQ than East Africans. Then he denies that there is any problem with doping in his country, and even claims that every new Kenyan doping busts somehow proves that doping is worse in other countries. Anyone who points out there is a doping problem in Kenya is slandered as a far-right racist by him.

There is no person on this board who is as genuinely racist as El K.

Should be easy to provide a link to the posts where I allegedly made such vile, hateful remarks about fellow African brothers ... I’ll wait.

And, no! I’ve never called for ALL foreigners to be kicked out of the country. I’ve only stated that any foreigners found to have abetted doping be asked to leave and be banned permanently. Kenyans just don’t do xenophobia; that’s something we expect from several elected right wing governments in the West. As a matter of fact, before the Arab Spring and the ensuing refugee crisis, Kenya was host to more refugees than any other country in the world.

Such a pathological liar.

rojo wrote:

Subway Surfers wrote:

Rojo do you believe Ayana is clean? So she could run the 2nd half of a 10,000m at 14:24 (???) pace, yet days later a 5,000m at that pace was way too quick. Remember Ayana and Tefera are from the same country. If you answered No to my question, then chances are that there is some sort of short-life PED that isn't detectable but gives a momentary massive boost.

I'll say this. I'd say her bombing in the 5000 certainly makes it seem more likely that she is clean than if she had come back and won both. Yet you seem to be implying her not winning gold in the 5000 somehow means she's a doper?

That makes no sense.

People who don't get drugs get tired and can't replicate back to back amazing performances.

If she was on some drug that mader her run out of her mind, why wouldn't it also work for the 5000? I'm very confused as to why you think her bombing the 5000 means she's more likely to be on drugs than if she had won it. I'd say just the opposite.

Coevett wrote:

El Keniano wrote:

Also disregard this other nutter that thinks Kip Keino must’ve been on some cutting-edge PEDs to beat Jim Ryun in 1968.

Oh, and if Kenyan success was indeed EPO-fuelled, volumes and performances would’ve declined with increased testing starting in 2015/6. That, evidently, is not happening. If you’re holding out for a day when Kenya will fall off the distance running map like Eastern Europe and North Africa then you’re in for major disappointment .

Is this the same Kip Kenio who was recently charged with embezzelling millions of dollars intended for young Kenyan athletes training for the Rio Olympics, and only got off with it because Kenyan MPs (the most corrupt in the world) demanded he not be prosecuted because he's a 'Kenyan hero'?

Charlie Francis claimed that the IAFF found that the entire Kenyan team was doped in 68. Kip and the rest of the Kenyan athletes (including Rudisha's dad) were performing bizarrely poorly all summer in the lead up, then suddenly found their mojo - including Kip who somehow dragged himself out of a hospital bed from near death, ran all the way to the stadium having missed his bus, and runs the most ridiculous performance in possibly all of Olympic history against a man who had repeatedly smashed him up to that point.

Nothing suspicious about that at all.

said88 wrote:

exrunner wrote:

We now have at least 3 people calling this guy a liar.

Myself and you who are pretty regular posters and also one of the owners of the website...

I have called Coevett a liar regularly since almost two years - for the simple reason that he IS a notorious liar. Again and again. I have spotted dozens of pure lies from this unbelievable character. And I'm just talking about unambiguously lies which can't be questioned (normally just number based facts). In the last "fight" which I've had with him he just talked how some specific race from his big hero Steve Ovett developed. Later he stated he never ever has seen the race (I have the race on tape and told him that the reality just is completely the opposite to his version of the race). But he will never just accept when he is wrong - he is doing it willingly and there just is no chance to clarify something, regardless how clearly it was shown that he is wrong. It's just obvious that he is not at all interested to find the facts about something. It's also obvious that he just already has DECIDED what (for him) are the "facts". And he is just looking for points which confirm his agenda. But when the points just don't confirm like he wants: change them. What he will not do: change his pont of view. Never.

Just for clarification: for sure any poster has any right to focus on doping in any form. But not with lies.

Coevett wrote:

El Keniano wrote:

Also disregard this other nutter that thinks Kip Keino must’ve been on some cutting-edge PEDs to beat Jim Ryun in 1968.

Oh, and if Kenyan success was indeed EPO-fuelled, volumes and performances would’ve declined with increased testing starting in 2015/6. That, evidently, is not happening. If you’re holding out for a day when Kenya will fall off the distance running map like Eastern Europe and North Africa then you’re in for major disappointment .

Is this the same Kip Kenio who was recently charged with embezzelling millions of dollars intended for young Kenyan athletes training for the Rio Olympics, and only got off with it because Kenyan MPs (the most corrupt in the world) demanded he not be prosecuted because he's a 'Kenyan hero'?

Charlie Francis claimed that the IAFF found that the entire Kenyan team was doped in 68. Kip and the rest of the Kenyan athletes (including Rudisha's dad) were performing bizarrely poorly all summer in the lead up, then suddenly found their mojo - including Kip who somehow dragged himself out of a hospital bed from near death, ran all the way to the stadium having missed his bus, and runs the most ridiculous performance in possibly all of Olympic history against a man who had repeatedly smashed him up to that point.

Nothing suspicious about that at all.

Subway Surfers wrote:

ex-runner wrote:

So does Farah.

Right now on his story he has pictures of him giving blood and urine samples to testers in Ethiopia.

Nobody seems to care about those facts though.

Well Mo could be clean, but this is an utter act of stupidity by anti doping officials. They are doing two separate types of testing together, blood and Urine. This means that it is unlikely he will be tested again in the next 6-8 weeks. Better anti-doping would have blood tested him, come back a week later and Urine tested him, then a week later for a blood test. If this is how testing is conducted in Ethiopia for their top runners, who are likely tested OOC 6 times a year max, you can see how the country pumps out so many suspicious performances. If Mo is dirty and given he recently posted his drug samples on instagram, right about now he'll be shooting up. It looks like Kiprop was caught because he was tested twice in short succession.

exrunner wrote:

Subway Surfers wrote:

Well Mo could be clean, but this is an utter act of stupidity by anti doping officials. They are doing two separate types of testing together, blood and Urine. This means that it is unlikely he will be tested again in the next 6-8 weeks. Better anti-doping would have blood tested him, come back a week later and Urine tested him, then a week later for a blood test. If this is how testing is conducted in Ethiopia for their top runners, who are likely tested OOC 6 times a year max, you can see how the country pumps out so many suspicious performances. If Mo is dirty and given he recently posted his drug samples on instagram, right about now he'll be shooting up. It looks like Kiprop was caught because he was tested twice in short succession.

All I read here is pure speculation and made up data. Absolute pure nonsense rubbish with not even pretend substance to back it. You’d be laughed out of court.

Farah posts his blood and urine tests all the time. I’ve seen dozens and dozens of similar posts in the last 12 months.

Testing is completely random. They don’t turn up one morning and say ‘cheers, see you next month’.