Hidden fences wrote:
Hopefully Sydney's coaches won't ruin her a la Al Sal.
So young to be so burnt out.
Salazar saw nearly every runner as a potential 5000m/10000m/Marathon runner. Mary Cain was classic 800m/1500m. A sixteen year old who raced 1:59.xx 800m! Salazar made her a 1500m/5000m runner. Sydney M. won't let anyone attempt to make her an 800m runner or race longer events.
probablyright wrote:
just a gut feeling wrote:
Not sure why but it's just a gut feeling. Feel free to bump this when she wins gold in 2020 and proves me to be an idiot.
I have a gut feeling you are a pretty sorry excuse for a human being, but I could be wrong.
What is your problem. Every Sydney thread on the board, you are in there white knighting under 20 different names at the smallest bit of speculation on her future. Have you a insatiable crush on her or something, it's getting creepy now.
Cain was a World Junior Champion. That's not a flop.
Hidden fences wrote:
Hopefully Sydney's coaches won't ruin her a la Al Sal.
So young to be so burnt out.
Life likely "ruined" Cain.
I don’t AL had anything to do with Cain getting slower.
Actually he probably was the best chance she had to actually not get slower. The odds are horrific for girls getting slower. He bet against the odds and lost. I’m impressed he even tried.
All of the other young girls who eventually got slower at the exact same age had nothing to do with Alberto so hate the game.
400 Hurdles she is currently t9th fastest performer 52.75. Lets hope they let her focus on that event and chase after the Russian Yuliya Pechonkinas 52.34 from 2003.
I'd like to see her near future goal be on the 400 IM podium at the 2020 OG .
This event is hot------
Muhammad, Little, Carter, Johnson, Spencer and Moline make just getting ON the USA OG team a mighty hard chore.
just a gut feeling wrote:
Not sure why but it's just a gut feeling. Feel free to bump this when she wins gold in 2020 and proves me to be an idiot.
Kind of agree and get the same vibe. I really wonder how long she is going to want to keep doing it. She's been in the spotlight for so long. In interviews would say things such as "I just want to be a teenager" etc. (very valid viewpoint) but I wonder if it will bleed over and some point she just wants to be a "normal" adult and step away from the sport.
Was A wrote:
Cain was a World Junior Champion. That's not a flop.
Her senior career since then has been abject failure.
As others have already pointed out, Sydney has already made an Olympic team, set world jr. records, become one of the top 10 fastest in history in the 400 meter hurdles, set the NCAA record in that event, won an NCAA championship and came .02 seconds away from setting the NCAA indoor 400 meter record and winning that championship (the winner ran in another heat).
With the resume she already has, even if she never competes again, it seems impossible to consider her career "a complete flop." The vast majority of professional track & field athletes will never match that level of success in their careers.
Of course it's possible that she may not reach some of the lofty heights many people expect of her (world records, Olympic gold medals, world championships, etc.) . But not becoming the best in the world does not equal a "complete flop" in my opinion.
As far as Mary Cain, I'm sure she hasn't had the career she expected, but she too has accomplished so much already. Made a World Championship team, won a US indoor title, etc. I hope she regains her form, and if she doesn't I hope she has a great career in whatever else she chooses to do.
Was A wrote:
Cain was a World Junior Champion. That's not a flop.
True, but it's about like being the tallest midget in the grand scheme of T&F.
Cain’s WC title was/is/always will be a joke. 3,000m is the B final, for those trying to avoid the real name athletes in the 1,500m or 5,000m. A nothing event that only de-values the meet.
The word career refers to a job. We incorrectly call high school and college activities, careers. Cain didn’t make a great deal of money or accomplish much as a pro. McLaughlin signed a huge contract but hasn’t done anything yet. Just based on the Financial aspect even if she doesn’t accomplish much, I can’t say that her career is a flop. If I am in a job that makes some meaningless product but I make a significant amount of money, I have a successful career.
Use English wrote:
The word career refers to a job. We incorrectly call high school and college activities, careers.
‘Career’ developed from words meaning run/road/wagon so its original, general meaning is basically ‘journey’. Encompasses every occupation.
Shut up. wrote:
Nope, not at all. She's already made an Olympic team, and Cain certainly hasn't. McLaughlin knows she has what it takes. Your gut is connected to a pisspoor head.
Cain made a World Team
Olympic Team= World Team
The same athletes are competing for both teams every year.
McLaughlin already made it through to adulthood with flying colors, so that question is put to rest. She has an enormous contract that she just signed. She has bests of 11.07/22.39/50.07/52.75 after just her freshman year of college.
She'll have a legitimate shot to win gold at 400mH and 4x400m at every world and Olympic competition for the next 12 years, and she looks to become a medal threat in the 200 and 400. She is also a World junior champ and NCAA champ. One underwhelming 500m race indoors with a win in January doesn't indicate any kind of problems. Look at Murphy, who coming back from injury last winter ran 1:50 and people were saying he was done. He ended up running 1:43 low. She's not coming back from anything other than switching coaches. When summer comes, she is going to be challenging the world record and will be on the U.S. team in multiple events.
primed to win many medals at olympics and we. 400m hurdles, 4 x 400m, maybe even 400m.
I can’t see it happening any other way.
She’s .4 off the world record for 400m hurdles, as a teen!
The hype is real!
13th fastest of all-time
Fastest time in the world in 2018
.4 off the world record
As a teenager!
Comparing her to Cain is like comparing Will Lear to Matt Centro.
Why would anyone wish against McLaughlin? She is talented, fast, has her act together and pretty hot. I'd rather see her in the Olympics than some oompa-loompa. I don't mind watching Alyson Felix stretching and jumping up and down in her running shorts either... hope she gets back on it and runs into her 50s. Count me in for that.
Give it a rest LRC. This is an overreaction. Can't we just like athletes, cheer them on, give them encouragement, celebrate good results? And not discuss their looks? Apparently not.
NewtotheSouthSide wrote:
Give it a rest LRC. This is an overreaction. Can't we just like athletes, cheer them on, give them encouragement, celebrate good results? And not discuss their looks? Apparently not.
No.