Man you people need to stop obsessing over your Strava data, and get out and enjoy a trail run from time to time.
Man you people need to stop obsessing over your Strava data, and get out and enjoy a trail run from time to time.
3565 miles for the year so far, 6:41 average.
Spend a lot of time around 7:00 pace recovering from workouts. A few years ago I averaged 6:15 but kept everything within 5:45 to 6:45. I’ve had much more success with hard days harder and easy days easier. Now it’s rare for me to be in the 5:45 to 6:45 range, which I call no man’s land because that run has no purpose. Some of my training partners do recovery north of 8:30 pace but can roll on race day.
As impressive as 6:31 pace is over the year, IMHO you will probably see faster times with more pace differential. (Unless you’re a 2:15 guy!)
I have ran close to 2700 miles this year. Average pace is probably somewhere between 7:10 as I take a lot of runs pretty easy but long runs/workouts/races bring that number down a little.
PRs are 15:55, 33:42, 76:44
Coyote Montane wrote:
60 - older than the dust you train on
2800 miles in 2018, avg 8:06 (most at 5500-7500 elevation)
PRs were 30-35 years ago (low 15 5K, sub 32 10K a couple times)
2018 - 17:29, 28:10 8K, 1:19 half marathon
That's impressive, Coyote.
60 - still young in spirit
1275 miles in 2018, avg 10:07 (many in Mississippi's very long summer; average pace slowed by two bouts of disc problems that limited me to power-walking @ 14-16 minute pace once I was ambient
PRs were 35 years ago: 17:27, 35:35, 59:35 10 mile, 2:53 marathon
2018: Only two races this year, both badly measured 5Ks, 7:34 pace in first, 7:31 pace in turkey trot two days ago.
No complaints from me.
Interesting question. According to Strava, I’ve run 2448 miles this year, with an average pace of 6:50.2.
2018 bests: 15:52, 33:20, 1:12:15, 2:34:19
Not super surprising, but I’ve done fairly little running actually at 6:50 pace.
FormerTree wrote:
Man you people need to stop obsessing over your Strava data, and get out and enjoy a trail run from time to time.
Almost all trail runs for me, including a lot of rough trail that many wouldn't consider runnable. A lot of slogs in snow on trails recently too, as slow as 15 mpm pace. My average pace for 2018 so far is 11:14, for 2,438 miles, 317,283 ft climbing.
PRs 15:50 and 32:06, but those were off of all jogging, not seriously training. I have been in sub-30 shape before back in college, but wasn't on the team, so never raced.
In 2018 thus far I have run:
-1,679 miles @ 7:12 avg pace
-climbed 57,060 ft
(most runs were done between 4500 - 5300ft)
What I can run right now?
~15:35 road 5k
~4:25 track mile
I always considered myself on the less talented side (but looking at you guys maybe not? ). Or maybe you can't tell much about someone's training by these 2 variables alone. Also, my pace is probably leaned way too much on the slower side as I do my fast workouts on a stopwatch. I think sub 15 is very likely in a few months.
I'm really out of shape, so my average pace for running in the past year is probably something around 12:30 pace. I keep running for a few weeks, then not running for a few months. I need to get back into it consistently.
PRs are 17:50 for 5K, 10:55 for 3200, and 5:05 or so for 1600. I haven't run a race in over a decade, and certainly can't get anywhere near those times now.
You people are crazy. I'd guess my average pace this year is around 8:20, and if trail running is included then probably 9:00 pace or so. PRs of 14:5-, 32:0-, and 1:09. Though right now I could probably only do 16:10, 34 min, and 1:15 or so. But in the best shape of my life was still definitely averaging over 8:00 pace.
4,701.8 YTD (Shooting for 5214.3/100 mpw avg.) averaging 6:51
1:06 Half 2:19 Full
This year I started running slower recovery runs since workouts got longer and more intense, have probably averaged 6:45 the last couple years at a couple hundred miles less.
Just went and ran some 8:30s to help lower my average (7:51). Based on the small set of data here, I'm probably running quite a few of my runs a little too fast.
And today's run felt pretty nice. Thought I would go shorter but ended up tacking a couple extra miles on. I could definitely see how this mentality could lead to more overall miles and some harder, more quality workout sessions. Run more slow miles to be able to run faster miles. Could be my 2019 mantra.
Thanks for all the replies guys, this is definitely very useful to me.
I've never really ran intervals, or specific sessions or anything like that as such so I thought this would be a useful metric to see where my running stacked up against the majority who would have done. And yeah, it seems I run way too fast on average.
My PRs are 1:18 for the half and 2:49 for the full, both ran in 2015. I haven't done any races this year, just tried to keep up near 50 miles per week. What I have done though, is quite a lot of ~ 10 mile runs at ~6:00 min mile pace , so I feel I'm around my half PR level.
The kicker though is that I've just turned 44, so I was wondering if I can chip something off my marathon PR next year before age catches me. I'm guessing (looking at the averages listed here) that may be possible, especially if I can get that average pace up a bit, which might in turn allow me to increase my weekly mileage.
The weird thing is though I only discovered this site last year and started reading about higher mileage and thought why not give it a go. I never ran anything like this before, e.g. in 2015 when I did my PRs, my total miles for that year was 1,425, averaged at 6:20 pace (the highest month was just 160 miles). So I ran a lot less, but a lot faster. Clearly I've been doing this WAY wrong!
8:25 average
1,160 miles with 65,325 feet of vert in 162 hours and 44 minutes
Recent HM PR of 1:32:20 (see handle)
Interesting running history. I do think a person can possibly average a faster pace if they are just doing a lot of steady state/tempo type running. I'm not sure if everyone can do that, though (I tend to break down).
But given what you wrote, I think you could increase miles quite a bit and add some serious quality sessions to lower your half and marathon PRs.
Woah, just looked up some training calculators and you are basically running 3 to 4 seconds slower than your marathon pace every day. That's nuts. Start cruising around about a minute (or a tad more) slower than MP and see how things go. My guess is that it will feel crazy slow for you. But just think about adding the miles in. And maybe pick two days a week where you really get after it.
2,791 miles @ 7:18/mi
2018 bests:
800: 154
1600: 4:11
3200: 9:06
5000: 15:30
googler wrote:
Interesting question. According to Strava, I’ve run 2448 miles this year, with an average pace of 6:50.2.
2018 bests: 15:52, 33:20, 1:12:15, 2:34:19
Not super surprising, but I’ve done fairly little running actually at 6:50 pace.
The more I think about this, the less I think the average pace stat matters; it’s all about what your focus is. I went back through logs of more serious training periods and found:
Age 22:
Miles: 1,980
Average pace: 7:19
Bests: 1:57, 3:57, 8:38, 14:51 (all on track)
Lots of hard track workouts and SLOW recovery running. Focus was on 1500-5k track races.
Age 25:
Miles: 3,512
Average pace: 6:28.9
Bests: 1:08:5x, 2:25:5x (on road)
Higher volume (for me), lots of fast long runs and high volume workouts. Recovery running at a more honest pace. Focus was the fall marathon race.
2018:
Miles: ~2700
Average pace: 6:50
Bests: 15:52, 33:20, 1:12:15, 2:34:19
Just having fun and staying fit. Lots of racing, less serious training, focus on other parts of life (but still wanted to run that marathon well!)
Maybe standard deviation of pace is a more revealing stat than average... regardless, it seems silly for this tread to devolve into runners looking down on other runners for a stat that doesn’t matter.
That being said, a 2:49 runner averaging 6:31 pace seems nuts! That must be a soft PR.
Bump. I like this thread.