So this is college in 2018 wrote:
Also, this was a trigonometry class and right in the middle of his math lecture
College trig? Smelling something fishy here.
So this is college in 2018 wrote:
Also, this was a trigonometry class and right in the middle of his math lecture
College trig? Smelling something fishy here.
Flagpole wrote:
So this is college in 2018 wrote:
So my college professor gave a big anti gun rant on Friday. He said nobody should be allowed to own a gun if any kind. Even revolvers. He said guns are the biggest problem in the usa and they need to be permanently banned and this is the main reason why we are one of the worst countries in the world to live in.
Thoughts? Do colleges intentionally search for teachers like this?
That is an extreme position and not one that most liberals have. I am a liberal, and I believe we should have the right to bear arms. The tradition of gun ownership is too long and strong in this country,a nd it is one of the the things that America was founded on.
If you have ever driven across the country or through very rural areas of our country where you see farm houses that are a mile apart or more with police and other law enforcement officials even further away, then you understand the need for firearms. I am even ok with it in urban areas, but out in the sticks, it is really apparent that the need is real.
People should be able to own guns to hunt, for sport shooting, and for self protection.
REASONABLE RESTRICTIONS
1) I believe we don't need ordinary US citizens to own automatic weapons of any kind or be able to purchase add-ons that can turn a weapon into an automatic weapon. And, if you are one of those people who likes to argue that there really isn't any difference between an automatic weapon and a semi-automatic weapon, then my answer to that is to ban semi-automatic weapons too, NOT to then just allow automatic weapons.
2) I don't believe we need ordinary citizens to be able to purchase bullet-proof vests or body armor.
3) I believe life in prison should be the minimum penalty for committing any crime with a firearm. One and done.
4) I don't believe what many gun owners believe, and that is that we should own guns to prevent the government from oppressing us. At this point, the government has tanks and missiles and all kinds of weaponry at its disposal, so that is a silly thing to want or say. And NO, I don't believe we should all be allowed to have the same weaponry as the United States government.
So...rifles, shotguns, pistols of all shapes and sizes as long as nothing is automatic along with the severe punishment I mentioned above for any commission of a crime with a firearm.
1) "Ordinary citizens" cannot buy automatic weapons. It requires a special permit and an extensive vetting process. Only people who know next to nothing about guns thinks that there is no difference in auto and semi-auto. So #1 is already covered in federal law.
2) Why not? (Felons cannot legally purchase them).
3) I think this one would be construed as cruel and unusual in the courts.
4) I think this is one of the weaker arguments for gun ownership, but still a valid one. But rebels in WWII created a lot of havoc with small arms and ISIS and others do so now.
BYU Physics Professor wrote:
Its the same bull from you over and over and over. You are anti gun because you are pro evil. You don't believe evil exists, so you put the blame on an inanimate object like a gun.
You do this to take responsibility off people if color and others who are violent. If you can switch the focus to an inanimate object, then you can let blacks behave however they want and criminals to behave however they want. I don't care if your parents didn't raise you around guns. You personally are a low functioning evil pos if you support gun control.
Every teacher in america should be required to have a gun on them every day in class. Because evil exists. Because people like you exist. You will not stop until we are unarmed and you little minority friends can have all the guns.
Ps- the last thing your buddy Obama did before he left office was try to make it illegal for anyone receiving social security disability to own a gun. He wanted veterans and ppl in wheelchairs to be helpless. Basically the same thing you want.
Any gun control at all is bullshyt.
You are nothing but bullshyt.
And you shouldn't be living here.
You are a very scary person, and I don't mean that as a compliment. Have you thought about getting help for your anger issues? (Especially since you seem to be packing.)
sbeefyk2 wrote:
I mean I’ve spent 9 years in school. 4 at a very liberal UC (university of CA system). 2 at a private Christian school. And 2 more at a different very liberal UC and only once has any professor talked politics.
That one time was this: protestors entered the classroom banging trash cans and the professor yelled at them to leave. Afterwards she told us she supports protests and even participated in the march on Washington and other women’s rights marches back in her day but she thinks it’s incredibly disrespectful to disrupt a class people are paying for.
That is a perfectly reasonable stance.
Plus no professor likes to be interrupted!
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Flagpole wrote:
That is an extreme position and not one that most liberals have. I am a liberal, and I believe we should have the right to bear arms. The tradition of gun ownership is too long and strong in this country, and it is one of the the things that America was founded on.
That is not an extreme position to the left. I live in Boulder and most people I know take that position on guns.
I wonder if this was intended to be funny.
Doclove wrote:
Ezekiel bread wrote:
I would respond with this:
"Any unarmed people are slaves, or are subject to slavery at any given moment."- Huey Newton
No they can live in a democratic society and are protected by the police and army.
A gun is useless as self defence if the other person is already pointing there gun at you
In the US the police cannot always protect you. In fact a Supreme Court decision pretty much absolves the police of the requirement to protect individuals--by that I mean you have no guarantee that the police are going to be able to stop a crime from being committed.
Also, the army in the US cannot operate as law enforcement without a suspension of powers.
Yes, if the other person has his/her gun drawn I am at a distinct disadvantage. That does not mean that I should not be able to own a gun though.
the430miler wrote:
Paul2432 wrote:
Surprised it took so long form someone to point this out.
If this story is even true, the professor is entitled to express his opinion just like anyone else. Not sure what the problem is. If you disagree then debate him or ignore him.
(and yes, I know, his critics are entitled to express their opinions as well, even if it is to wrongly suggest he should be silenced or punished)
Actually.......no.
It is illegal for teachers/coaches at any level to tell you who to vote for or to evoke their political beliefs. Not only is it unprofessional and results in immediate revokation of their liscense, it's also grounds to be arrested.
And to answer the op.....yes colleges for search for wormy liberal communist professors, even though it's illegal in all schools for them to spout their political garbagio. unless you go to a........you guessed it.......private christian college. Then they have no laws or governing body with anything. Including educational requirements.
"Illegal", really there is a state law against it? I would be interested in seeing that statute.
Citizens should ABSOLUTELY have access to every single weapon that our military has. Don't agree? Then YOU are the communist
Luv2Run wrote:
the430miler wrote:
Actually.......no.
It is illegal for teachers/coaches at any level to tell you who to vote for or to evoke their political beliefs. Not only is it unprofessional and results in immediate revokation of their liscense, it's also grounds to be arrested.
And to answer the op.....yes colleges for search for wormy liberal communist professors, even though it's illegal in all schools for them to spout their political garbagio. unless you go to a........you guessed it.......private christian college. Then they have no laws or governing body with anything. Including educational requirements.
"Illegal", really there is a state law against it? I would be interested in seeing that statute.
It's in every states statue and public schools statue.
Your teacher is perfectly allowed to stand up there and say global warning is a fact. But the very moment he tells you how to vote on a political topic, he is breaking state and federal law.
Professor #649832 wrote:
Yeah, crazy to think the most educated (PhD) make the most sense about gun control (versus Cleetus in his double-wide down the gravel road)? [And, yes, I live in rural South &, unfortunately, have lived near a Cleetus all my life.]
Meanwhile, I am an English college professor. I do keep my political views out of the classroom. I teach a lot of non-fiction writing classes. When I teach persuasive essays, I always bring in BOTH sides of the argument (on such topics as internet privacy, immigration, environment, etc.).
Outside the classroom, here's my position: your Second Amendment rights ends when you violate my civil liberties to feel safe in public. Ban all open carry & concealed carry laws. You can pack your house with all the non-automatic weapons you want. But, the moment you bring it out in public, this should be illegal.
Your First Amendment rights end when you write or say things that make me feel uncomfortable. You can espouse your views all you want in your own home, but the moment you bring them out in public should be illegal.
My 2 cents Take wrote:
I mostly agree with your professor, except for those citizens whom are a member of a state militias. I disagree with the current Supreme Court's view that the second amendment extends the right to individuals and not a collective. I think that unless an individual has taken classes to train them to protect people, if not, then they don't need to own any gun(s) period.
If you look at the Bill of Rights, they are all geared toward individuals and limits on what government can do. Heller found that to be the case. It is an individual right, not a group right. Just like the First Amendment.
TMad wrote:
Australia did ban guns, but the # of violent killings of humans remains the same. Why is that?
What about the number of "non-violent" killings?
A Good father wrote:
Citizens should ABSOLUTELY have access to every single weapon that our military has. Don't agree? Then YOU are the communist
No, trigger happy idiots like you should not have the right to be armed.
Why do you think the murder rate in the USA is astronomically higher than any other developed nation? Just saying.
You're at the point of no return where every idiot and thug and honest citizen has a gun and is trigger happy.
That's really really scary.
Imagine if it was just knives and then you'd be at a similar murder rate as the UK.
BYU Physics Professor wrote:
"You should NOT have your gun in the grocery store, the car, the sidewalk, the library, or the school/university."
In other words, these are the specific places that you want to get shot up by a bad guy with a gun and you REFUSE to have any good guys to help take him out.
You do not want people in public to be able to stop the shooter. You want them to be killed and you want there to be as many casualties as possible.
I would jerk you out of your teaching position immediately and replace you with a homeless uneducated bum who at least has half a brain and understands that guns dont kill people.
Guns are nothing but a harmless tool. just like a microscope is a tool. You know........the exact same microscope that you continuously SUCKED at operating all through school; which is the entire reasoning that you teach English.........you are too stupid to understand math and science.
I am pretty pro-2nd Amendment, but to call a gun a "harmless tool" is way over the top. Also, why degrade into name calling? That is usually the sign one is losing an argument. I am guessing you will call him a Nazi at some point.
Supernova xc wrote:
Harambe wrote:
What do we mean by trig. Trig + geometry is like 8th - 9th grade math.
I think some is covered in 'pre-calculus' classes as well. If you can't go past alg. II you should be going to a community college to get the math or something.
Not where I'm from.
Geometry is a senior level high school course. Juniors can take it but it would be their ap placement.
Calculus and trigonometry are ABSOLUTELY university level courses and they are only open for people who have already passed university level algebra, which is a weed-out class f ohr most college students. Last I checked, about 80 percent of adults fail to ever complete their bachelors degree because they cannot get through college algebra, even with a tuter.
I really dont know why anyone would ever need to take trig or calculus unless they are going to be a professional math matician, a college math professor, a rocket scientist, of build calculators at the TI facility in Austin texas.
Any which way you look at it, trig is NOT a high school level course. Ddfinately not where I'm from. Perhaps some of you are lying about it being a high school class just to boyster your own intelligence??
Well, your spelling is pretty horrible too...
Honestly I assumed all high schools taught trig. At my HS (albeit a private school) we had geometry as sophomores (with some freshman who were in the accelerated math program from the middle school), and then trig as juniors.
My daughter's HS (government, not charter either) geometry is a sophomore class too.
I think stats is more important for HSers than calculus.
the430miler wrote:
Luv2Run wrote:
"Illegal", really there is a state law against it? I would be interested in seeing that statute.
It's in every states statue and public schools statue.
Your teacher is perfectly allowed to stand up there and say global warning is a fact. But the very moment he tells you how to vote on a political topic, he is breaking state and federal law.
Then give me the statute for a state or the federal code. I do not want a statue.
The closest reference I found was this from 2016 about a NYC regulation on being politically neutral (in this case not wearing political buttons in class).
Not saying that teachers should do this although high school and college is very different.
Touristin wrote:
A Good father wrote:
Citizens should ABSOLUTELY have access to every single weapon that our military has. Don't agree? Then YOU are the communist
No, trigger happy idiots like you should not have the right to be armed.
Why do you think the murder rate in the USA is astronomically higher than any other developed nation? Just saying.
You're at the point of no return where every idiot and thug and honest citizen has a gun and is trigger happy.
That's really really scary.
Imagine if it was just knives and then you'd be at a similar murder rate as the UK.
To you and flagpole silly, whom I'm actually surprised is so anti gun........
You sure do harp on the "needing guns just incase our military and government turns on us and we need our guns to overcome tyranny."
Is this a possibility? Yes. But it's not what I am a father am concerned about. What I'm concerned about is the fact that EVERY, (yes every) liberal Democrat has goal of taking away our guns at the individual level. Democrats want to make it where an INDIVUDUAL old lady cannot have a gun to defend against an INDIVIDUAL mugger that's about to rub and kill her on the way home from the grocery store. This is what EVERY gun control person wants, whether you realize it or not.
That's the whole point of gun control. It is stepping stones, little by little, to make it where little old ladies can NOT defend themselves at the INDIVIDUAL 1 on 1 level.
I wont even begin to tell you how stupid, pointless, and worthless your agenda is. The end goal is to make it where each INDIVIDUAL can't defend themself from another INDIVIDUAL (who will break the law anyways because criminals dont care about the law) and I will not let you accomplish that goal as long as I'm alive.
Letsrun is a good ole American website for very good hearted conservative runners. I pray nightly that you and David Hogg find yourself in a situation where bad guys are pointing guns in your face, and you see how stupid your old philosophy of not wanting people to open/conceal carry really is. You will be wishing you had a time machine to go back an undue all of your stupid anti gun activism.
No guns allowed? Then you dont get my fricken money or my fricken business. I wont be your victim.
Because what we really need is senile old people with bad eye sight to have unlimited access to firearms, resulting in millions of accidental deaths and possibly one prevented crime.
Luv2Run wrote:
So this is college in 2018 wrote:
Also, this was a trigonometry class and right in the middle of his math lecture
College trig? Smelling something fishy here.
Trig requires a fancy shmacy calculator with knowledge of tan, log, and cosine. A bunch of crap that nobody understands except the Steven hawking type people.
I would say that makes it a university level course. Point blank.
Should have asked what he would do if Trump declared martial law tomorrow.