Road Racing and Training Thread - Week Ending 9/30/18

pewow - Yes, I do think the gravel/dirt spared my legs some pounding. In fact, the race was only four days ago, and I felt pretty much back to normal this morning...10.5 at 6:40 overall, finishing 6:21, 6:09.

Happy running, my friend...

Tdr - I gather you are busy, as I have not seen an update to the leaderboard yet (with my 20-miler).

RRR sporting the Bright Crimson VF 4%. Well I guess you can add me to that list too.

So it will be a bit more than a week with virtually no running for me. I have kept up my aerobic load through cycling during this period and I think I am ready to resume running. My plan is to get the running volume back up and resume workouts after at least a week easy running to get the volume back up. Tomorrow (Fri.) I plan run 6-8mi on a treadmill as a test and if that goes well I will do my LR on Sat. and shoot for something in the 16-18mi range. Then next week just do all my runs easy and try to get close to 60mi. Two weeks ago I was at 58mi. I am open to any thoughts or suggestions towards the best way to get things back on track. Obviously I will try to take things easy to start to make sure my injury is on the mend.

Skip the workouts. Run easy and moderate for a while. Feel it out. Best of success to you.

outsiderunner wrote:

Skip the workouts. Run easy and moderate for a while. Feel it out. Best of success to you.

I'd only do half of that long run too unless it was a loop.

I think it's important to plan the next 7-10 says "in pencil." Coming back from a layoff due to injury, there are physical and mental traps that can grab you. If you plan to do 16-18 on Saturday, but only do 13, you may feel bad mentally... or force it and do 16 and feel bad physically. Just stay smart and pay attention. Any running this week is better than no running last week; we want a good performance on race day rather than a good-looking training log. Rooting for you to come back strong!

outsiderunner wrote:

Tdr - I gather you are busy, as I have not seen an update to the leaderboard yet (with my 20-miler).

The updated leaderboard will be up by Sunday morning! I have a feeling that our Chicago marathoners will be keeping me busy on that front next week. Good luck to all the racers

Tdr - Sounds good!

Thanks for the feedback and notes of caution. I had an uneventful treadmill run this morning so things look encouraging. I was definitely planning on keeping the long run on a loop close to home in the event that I have to shut things down early. My usual long runs can take me 6-8mi out from home. I sort of do that to commit to a minimum distance. Right now it is not a commit and more of a would be nice with my pencil in hand.

runrincerepeat wrote:

Gordon Tremeshko wrote:

I don't think that word means what you think it means.

Thanks Pewow (and others). Legs finally starting to feel like they're freshening up this morning so lets get to it already...

ANNALS ... Dammit

hahahahaha hahahahaha!! no take backs on that one.

team 1 wrote:

runrincerepeat wrote:

ANNALS ... Dammit

hahahahaha hahahahaha!! no take backs on that one.

I found a pretty good Beavis & Butthead meme to go along with it... but the link is about 10 pages long. It can be condensed as pretty much

HEH HEH HEH HEH ANNALS HEH HEH HEH HEH

And good luck to everyone racing this weekend. I can't wait to finish my easy Sunday morning run and sit down to watch the results roll in.

angryjohnny wrote:

Gordon - Mrs. AJ buys all my clothes. They just show up. None of them really fit. You need to get used to it, wear a belt, or eat some more cookies.

I only wear flats on quality days when I’m running marathon pace or faster. I don’t think my feet would hold up very long if I ran in flats everyday. I also think there’s something to smoove’s theory that you should train heavy and race light.

except for running clothes and race shirts, all of my clothes just show up as well courtesy of Mrs. Team1. though i did finally create a recurring Amazon order for socks.

i run in saucony kinvaras for my short runs, long runs, fast runs, slow runs, and races. except for trails, for which i wear new balance vazee summit unknown for runs short, long, fast, slow, and races.

thanks for all the comments about fuels. i am a fan of depletion runs and usually hit he road or trails early, after a cup of coffee, but was thinking of packing a couple gels for the race and taking them at 45 minute intervals. but fueling for a marathon is different than fueling for an ultra where we eat food like potatoes and sausages and crackers and soup during the race :-)

A recurring sock order is a great idea.

It rained all last night and the race director sent out an email this morning saying the course is already muddy. Going to keep raining all day and there is a flash flood warning tonight. Hopefully the mud will be bit of an equalizer and I can stay near the front longer.

Unsure what to do for shoes. I have xc spikes but I don't know if I could walk after a very hilly 12k in spikes. I also have two pairs of trainers, one new and one with hardly any tread left. I don't want to destroy the new shoes and would the extra tread between worn down and new road shoes even matter.

Also going to be two aid stations. Given the course and trail conditions I might be out there for 50min plus. I guess I'll try and drink some water. Only ever had water in a race during the half I ran 8 years ago.

Thanks for listening.

Warmed up in the Zoom Fly SP .... 8ish mile workout in the VaporFly

No comparison ... The vapor felt fast as hell. Esp at a certain speed.. its like a boat when you get to speed it trims up

team 1 wrote:

i run in saucony kinvaras for my short runs, long runs, fast runs, slow runs, and races. except for trails

I used to be a Mizuno fanboy, but the Kinvaras feel like I grew them onto my feet instead putting them on.

RRR - So the Zoom Fly stinks? Mine should get here today.

No the zoom fly is a really great shoe.. just def not int the Vapor fly range.

But I have the older version of the Fly not the flyknit ..which has a diff plate and has react foam

Glad to hear it is a good shoe...not Vapor Fly good, but still good. Now I will not feel like I am cheating...