Hill Run wrote:
and how can I label her doper? She smashed A DOPED UP RECORD IN HER FIRST( or second) RACE AT 10000m!
I have lost all respect for you to sit up her and vouch and try to go to bat to some one who is clearly, clearly a doper. That is why she lays low. No one is freaking stupid. You lay low and cherry pick racing to avoid testing.
I can almost count on my fingers in how many races she has been in over the years. compare her racing to her peers, not even close.
sitting up her talking about a runner being clean from a known DOPING nation. FOH
Well I’m certainly not going to sit here and defend your doping allegations towards her - for the simple reason that I have never met her! You purporting that she is definitely doping is as equally unprovable as me alleging she is definitely clean. - Which narrative you adopt depends Simply upon which side of the fence you sit. - I do notice however, that those who consistently allege doping are generally not well reaearched in the particular athlete. I have no issue with individuals holding strong and negative opinions. - But at least do your homework first, -speak from both the head and the heart.
As for beating a doped up record at her first attempt. - Again that’s your prerogative. I believe the women’s 10k record prior to Ayana was the weakest on the books. - You can not compare the female 10000m record in the same manner as say the men’s 100m record. - Records are not all equal, or even within the same ballpark. For example, the last international track 10k with all the “names” was run in August 2017. The only comparative event since would be the 10000m at the commonwealth games in March - Sure Kenya was there, but not the USA, not Ethiopia, no European countries.
How many other international track meets are run with such scarcity?
Nobody went after Wangs record - and Dibaba is on record confirming this. Simply because the big 10k races were held at world and Olympic championships where times were a distant second in importance to tactical execution & racing. We all know from her own confession no less, that Wang Junxia was doped. Ma Juren had them doing totally insane,inhuman and unsustainable workouts, for one purpose only, the Chinese champs and the setting of world records. It was basically a one time only deal. Wang Junxia to me is an example of what drugs and crazy training can do with what was in my opinion an athlete of average international ability. - She was turned into a “super soldier” for a short unsustainable period. Almaz Ayana is the diametric opposite. A massive natural front running talent, a lady who has the ability (and who also had to develop this ability) to destroy other runners in the main body of the race. No records will ever be set at the female 5 and 10k distances using tactical methods of racing.
All Ayana has done is throw historical protocols of race practice out of the window. What she does is “unprecedented” only to other athletes and observers. - But not to her, she has always run this way.
No european countries in the commonwealth? What about the four countries that make up Britain. Plus some Channel Islands and Gibraltar? Among these minnows there may be enough quality 10k runners to match your USA talent