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Devil Dog wrote:

I'm surprised she can get injured with all the steroids and EPO in her system.

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Jonathan Gault wrote:

Also Ayana has switched sponsors, from adidas to Nike:

https://twitter.com/Ayana_Almaz/status/1045334956061396992

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Scorpion_runner wrote:

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Jonathan Gault wrote:

Also Ayana has switched sponsors, from adidas to Nike:

https://twitter.com/Ayana_Almaz/status/1045334956061396992

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God Damn Liar. No way she had knee surgery a few weeks doing stretches like that, and that is recent because she is in Nike.

Just a doper lying low.

Even that official statement about her injury and knee surgery seem sketchy. it's something about the presentation, no specific details. Etc.

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Hill Run wrote:

Scorpion when you make such sweeping and bogus statements and present them as “facts” you come across as borderline insane.

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Scorpion_runner wrote:

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Jonathan Gault wrote:

Also Ayana has switched sponsors, from adidas to Nike:

https://twitter.com/Ayana_Almaz/status/1045334956061396992

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God Damn Liar. No way she had knee surgery a few weeks doing stretches like that, and that is recent because she is in Nike.

Just a doper lying low.

Even that official statement about her injury and knee surgery seem sketchy. it's something about the presentation, no specific details. Etc.

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She was operated in Switzerland by a Dr Biedirt. The operation was a month ago.
Scorpion when you make such sweeping and bogus statements and present them as “facts” you come across as borderline insane.
I agree her complete media silence has been unusual. But also take into consideration that despite being the best 10k track runner in the world, she is basically still a quiet, shy, country girl from western Ethiopia, she does not have a personal social media platform, she does not speak English and shuns the limelight. - So no you won’t get a constant stream of day to day dribble Americans are used to by the likes of Stephanie Bruce, Emma Coburn, Emily Enfeld and many others.
And before you label her a doper, do your research. As I have stated previously. The information within the press release was already available for those who took the time to look for it. -The same applies to her training regime and life in general.
Having a go at her for withholding information about her injury - and then in the next breath claiming she has not been operated upon and is doping, are two statements in total opposition to each other. After all, if you “know” the so called negatives about her then surely you also know everything else going on in her life????
Why not celebrate that a great runner is in recovery and we will potentially see a cracking 10k in Doha with her and Hassan battling it out.

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Scorpion_runner wrote:

and how can I label her doper? She smashed A DOPED UP RECORD IN HER FIRST( or second) RACE AT 10000m!

I have lost all respect for you to sit up her and vouch and try to go to bat to some one who is clearly, clearly a doper. That is why she lays low. No one is freaking stupid. You lay low and cherry pick racing to avoid testing.

I can almost count on my fingers in how many races she has been in over the years. compare her racing to her peers, not even close.

sitting up her talking about a runner being clean from a known DOPING nation. FOH

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Hill Run wrote:

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Scorpion_runner wrote:

and how can I label her doper? She smashed A DOPED UP RECORD IN HER FIRST( or second) RACE AT 10000m!

I have lost all respect for you to sit up her and vouch and try to go to bat to some one who is clearly, clearly a doper. That is why she lays low. No one is freaking stupid. You lay low and cherry pick racing to avoid testing.

I can almost count on my fingers in how many races she has been in over the years. compare her racing to her peers, not even close.

sitting up her talking about a runner being clean from a known DOPING nation. FOH

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Well I’m certainly not going to sit here and defend your doping allegations towards her - for the simple reason that I have never met her! You purporting that she is definitely doping is as equally unprovable as me alleging she is definitely clean. - Which narrative you adopt depends Simply upon which side of the fence you sit. - I do notice however, that those who consistently allege doping are generally not well reaearched in the particular athlete. I have no issue with individuals holding strong and negative opinions. - But at least do your homework first, -speak from both the head and the heart.

As for beating a doped up record at her first attempt. - Again that’s your prerogative. I believe the women’s 10k record prior to Ayana was the weakest on the books. - You can not compare the female 10000m record in the same manner as say the men’s 100m record. - Records are not all equal, or even within the same ballpark. For example, the last international track 10k with all the “names” was run in August 2017. The only comparative event since would be the 10000m at the commonwealth games in March - Sure Kenya was there, but not the USA, not Ethiopia, no European countries.
How many other international track meets are run with such scarcity?
Nobody went after Wangs record - and Dibaba is on record confirming this. Simply because the big 10k races were held at world and Olympic championships where times were a distant second in importance to tactical execution & racing. We all know from her own confession no less, that Wang Junxia was doped. Ma Juren had them doing totally insane,inhuman and unsustainable workouts, for one purpose only, the Chinese champs and the setting of world records. It was basically a one time only deal. Wang Junxia to me is an example of what drugs and crazy training can do with what was in my opinion an athlete of average international ability. - She was turned into a “super soldier” for a short unsustainable period. Almaz Ayana is the diametric opposite. A massive natural front running talent, a lady who has the ability (and who also had to develop this ability) to destroy other runners in the main body of the race. No records will ever be set at the female 5 and 10k distances using tactical methods of racing.
All Ayana has done is throw historical protocols of race practice out of the window. What she does is “unprecedented” only to other athletes and observers. - But not to her, she has always run this way.

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Renato Canova wrote:

Rumors from whom ? From a band of liers only having pleasure to defame top athletes ? From a group of losers without talent, passion, stimuli and motivation, who live all their life for envying who is able running faster than them ?

The attempt to manipulate the reality, and to sell stupid, not real and personal opinions as TRUTH, is one of the more slimy, shameful and disgusting behaviors people can have, and who spreads those false accusations is himself a revolting person.

Kenenisa had big problems not in one knee, but in one calf, with the rupture of some muscle fibers that stopped his activity for more than one year (the whole 2010).

After that injury, that happened during the race of Seven Hills in Nijmegen, he was no longer able to have continuity in training, and never competed between the Cross of Edinburgh (9th Jan 2010) and the WCh 2011 in Daegu (28th August) when he dropped out after 7 km, for winning, after 19 days, the only other race of the season : 10000m in Bruxelles in 26'43"16.

Kenenisa was no more able to run with spikes on track at high speed, also if in 2012 tried to run on the track for winning another Olympic Gold, but at the end understood was no more possible to reach the same shape of the past in something fast, for his problems when had to run fast. This is the main reason because moved to marathon.

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Hill Run wrote:

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Renato Canova wrote:

Rumors from whom ? From a band of liers only having pleasure to defame top athletes ? From a group of losers without talent, passion, stimuli and motivation, who live all their life for envying who is able running faster than them ?

The attempt to manipulate the reality, and to sell stupid, not real and personal opinions as TRUTH, is one of the more slimy, shameful and disgusting behaviors people can have, and who spreads those false accusations is himself a revolting person.

Kenenisa had big problems not in one knee, but in one calf, with the rupture of some muscle fibers that stopped his activity for more than one year (the whole 2010).

After that injury, that happened during the race of Seven Hills in Nijmegen, he was no longer able to have continuity in training, and never competed between the Cross of Edinburgh (9th Jan 2010) and the WCh 2011 in Daegu (28th August) when he dropped out after 7 km, for winning, after 19 days, the only other race of the season : 10000m in Bruxelles in 26'43"16.

Kenenisa was no more able to run with spikes on track at high speed, also if in 2012 tried to run on the track for winning another Olympic Gold, but at the end understood was no more possible to reach the same shape of the past in something fast, for his problems when had to run fast. This is the main reason because moved to marathon.

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Hello Renato, - it’s frustrating to read all these throwaway doping accusations isn’t it? Can you help out here and give your professional opinion about Almaz Ayanas training, her race strategy and her level of talent/ ability please?
I am sick and tired of the negative press she constantly receives from western commentators.
And keep up the discussion here, I greatly enjoy reading your posts.

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