CrossFitter running marathon with no training (except WODs)

Sdfsdfsdfsdfsdfsdf wrote:

Looking through his instagram, he has giant thighs, so that makes me want to increase my time prediction. However, he has pictures of his PR lifts, and his DL PR is very low for how large his thighs are, so maybe he is a distance runner genetically, so that brings my predicted time back to where it was before.

He also seems to program in a fair amount of running and cycling in his WOD at his gym, so that makes me want to revise my prediction down a bit. New prediction: 4:35.

Because quads are a major contributor to the Deadlift huh?

He probably rows a lot, especially when looking at his quads, so that will give him some general aerobic fitness.

I’m going to say he breaks 4 hours....or DNFs.

He will start out around 8:00 pace, settle in around 9:00 and have a really hard time the last hour.

Alan

Carol Wozniacki broke 3:30 with a tennis and cross fit type of training regimen. She did run but no specific marathon long runs.

If he’s living that keto life

Expect a 445

Also I see his clean PR but where is his DL? He’s cleaning over 300lb. I would expect his DL to be around 500.

Alan

4 hours if he doesn't get a knee injury.

So this guy is on some kind of juice right?

Fishyfish wrote:

Why does he need 7 weeks to not train?

Because he thinks he's going to train, do well, and then say "I did nothing but xfit".

coach wrote:

Carol Wozniacki broke 3:30 with a tennis and cross fit type of training regimen. She did run but no specific marathon long runs.

She regularly ran over 13 miles, a ton of 90 minute runs along with and practicing five hours a day... Terrible example.

Almostsbs wrote:

coach wrote:

Carol Wozniacki broke 3:30 with a tennis and cross fit type of training regimen. She did run but no specific marathon long runs.

She regularly ran over 13 miles, a ton of 90 minute runs along with and practicing five hours a day... Terrible example.

Thanks for the correction, I didn't know she ran that much

Steve Magness said it best. He said he could finish a marathon not running for 6 months, but that doesn't mean the training WORKED.

"#4 What Happens when we build a base and follow it up with intensity?

A major problem with research studies is that they are all short term. It’s the nature of the beast. But let me pose a few questions to all of you.

What does the typical recreational endurance athlete do?

If you answered jog around or do easy and moderate runs with little hard workouts you’d be correct. Most recreational runners for instance simply go run. Why does this matter?

What happens when you take people just doing mileage and add intensity?

If you answered they improve over a short time, you’d be correct! Think back to your HS days when you spent a summer building a base of almost just mileage and then you hit the season and your coach starts throwing interval training into the mix. You get a nice boost in performance right? This is essentially what happens in these research studies. They take recreational runners who just do easy/base stuff and then throw 6 weeks of training hard on them and they improve. Ask any coach and they’ll say this is just a simple old school peaking/training program. In fact, it might resemble your typical HS application of Lydiard training.

#5 What CrossFit endurance does is reminiscent of training done in the early 1900s:

I harp on people to know their history so that they don’t repeat training mistakes. In the history of endurance training it’s been a constant back and forth between intensity and volume of work. Early on there were very very big swings. So we went back and forth between training that was almost all easy slow running and that which was all hard interval training. As training has evolved we’ve gotten closer and closer to that sweet spot and mix.

What CFE has done is ignore all that and try and go back to a time when all that was done was very hard very fast interval work. It worked to a degree, but performance got much better when we modulated things so that there was a nice mix.

Essentially, Crossfit is living in like the 1940s. We’ve learned from those times and evolved." - Steve Magness, Science of Running

Nothing like SCRAWNY runners getting all riled up over an alpha male with superior physical prowess.

NTXFSA wrote:

Thousands of people have run marathons with no training. But XFitters think they're really special when they do it. How they do depends on how fit they are and if they are decent runners. If the guy is fit, he should be fine, but can't really guess a time without knowing if he can run.

I knew a group of college kids who were fit but not runners who ran a marathon on a whim and ran in the 3:40s. That's about what I'd guess for this guy with no other knowledge.

Truth - I ran a marathon with no training ... this does not make me a marathoner.

Time guess: 4:02:10

Almostsbs wrote:

coach wrote:

Carol Wozniacki broke 3:30 with a tennis and cross fit type of training regimen. She did run but no specific marathon long runs.

She regularly ran over 13 miles, a ton of 90 minute runs along with and practicing five hours a day... Terrible example.

Also, she was a world class athlete in a sport requiring mobility for hours at a time. Lots of tennis players can run mid-d or distance pretty well.

Gravy wrote:

Nothing like SCRAWNY runners getting all riled up over an alpha male with superior physical prowess.

He's definitely going to be stronger but the sight of cross fitters trying to run/waddle with their hilarious swollen pecs on that Netflix doc about Froning doesn't make me particularly jealous

Gravy wrote:

Nothing like SCRAWNY runners getting all riled up over an alpha male with superior physical prowess.

Not sure what's superior about being slower.

To be as good as you can at anything you have to specialise

Atleast I don't have to cheat at my own challenges.

If he was just wanting to train for a marathon while keeping his muscle I'd have no objection.

elephino wrote:

Fishyfish wrote:

Why does he need 7 weeks to not train?

Because he thinks he's going to train, do well, and then say "I did nothing but xfit".

Yup. And he really doesn’t need to more than just finish to sell his message to his target audience. If he completes a marathon by “only” only doing xfit he’ll have all the words he will need for his inspirational posts about the subject.

A CrossFitter who wants attention! Now I've seen everything.

He'll qualify hansons before I finish high school. 2:06 easy calling it now.