John McCain Appreciation

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Agree with the statements of Trump2020. Well said.

Also agree about term limits. This was a do nothing rino for most of his 35 years of feeding off the teets of us tax payers.

With flakey Flake retiring to flirt with a POTUS run, and McBrain finally gone, the senate will now pick up two GOP seats.

I still don’t for the life of me know what he was thinking when he picked Palin as his running mate. Yeah I know he wanted to lock up the hard right but wow what an epic miscalculation.

McCain's replacement will not be a RINO. As for Flake's seat, there are 3 GOP candidates who all support Trump. If the Dems fail to flip Flake's seat, AZ will end up with 2 strong pro-Trump senators.

You might think he’s a war criminal (I don’t), but if so, he served his time in the Hanoi Hilton for it...and if the North Vietnamese truly thought he was a war criminal, they would have executed him.

McCain was a genuine war hero in a war in which the public found very few heros. As a man he has been a most admirable and upright human being.

As a US Senator he was adamantly in favor of continuing US intervention in places in which we have no real national interest (such as Ukraine, Georgia, Iraq, Yemen, Afghanistan and others). And it always amazed me that his takeaway from the disastrous Vietnam War was the need for more intervention not less. I never admired his judgment in that, nor his judgment generally (he was one of the "Keating Five" who took hundreds of thousands in campaign contributions from corrupt Lincoln Savings and Loan, and in saying this I'm not saying he was personally corrupt, just that he was incredibly obtuse in taking that tainted money). His signature legislature (McCain-Feingold) is an abomination that criminalizes certain types of political speech and actually works to constrain his own party more than it does the opposition.,... I'm not going to go down the whole list.

So as much as I admire the man and his courage, I really don't admire his works over a very long career in the Senate.

When you’re an elected official, you are sent to DC to represent your constituents. You DO NOT abandon your majority to ‘vote your conscious’ like this putz did numerous times.

And for that reason I’m glad he’s gone...and so are those citizens of AZ that made the mistake of voting for him.

Also, what good did he do? All he did was push for wars in the Middle East that did nothing but kill a bunch of innocent civilians.

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I hated him 15-20 years ago because he spent years trying to ban legalized college sports wagering in Nevada. I was a full time Las Vegas sports bettor at that point. McCain would try to sneak the legislation attached to totally unrelated bills during late hour senate sessions. He was always stunned that Harry Reid would be waiting in the darkness to object and prevent it from happening. McCain would intentionally wait until he was sure Reid was not on premises, but it never worked. Reid thwarted him every time.

I came around a bit on McCain during that remark to the batshit lady in 2008. She was an early indication of what the GOP was aspiring to become and would become. But instead of disgracefully milking it like Trump, McCain had the class to reject it. It rightfully became a famous clip, one that will be played for centuries when this era of Republicanism is examined. McCain in 50 years will be considered a war hero and great American while Donald Trump will be viewed as one of the worst Americans of all time.

BTW, I always have to laugh at moronic conservatives who actually believe McCain would have won in 2008 minus Palin. The Democratic nominee was a lock cinch to win that race. I was betting all year long at the ridiculously favorable odds, which were barely less than Even money on the eventual Democratic nominee becoming president. Bush had been stuck in low 30s to low 40s approval rating since Katrina in late summer 2005. That is three full years. Every situational trend pointed to a Democratic takeover.

Conservatives believed otherwise only because they are stupid by definition and they watch Fox News which further fuels the stupidity. I laugh at conservatives every day but never was it more sustained and satisfying than 2008.

McCain cemented his legend status last year by making the decisive vote on the Affordable Care Act. Literally thousands of Americans otherwise would have died, perhaps already more than on 9/11. Of course, the deaths would have been scattered and obscure and nobody would pin it on that health care switch, but it would be the bottom line reality.

Can you imagine how much a petulant childish type like Donald Trump will stew in the next few days, as one tribute after another is paid to John McCain, a person he can't stand? Trump will no doubt try to steal the spotlight with some type of juvenile act. And as soon as the McCain tributes subside the country and much of the world goes back to viewing Donald Trump as the laughingstock he is.

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One politician who transcended political parties and has had wide ranged respect.

He has moved on.

While I haven’t always agreed with him politically, I have always respected McCain the unselfish dedication he has had for his country. A true patriot.

RIP, John McCain.

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heaven is one vote closer to banning MLK

Many during MLK's era thought he was too much of a sweetheart. Many thought MLK was too nice and too gentle. I assume you prefer Nat Turner Day?

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L L wrote:

One politician who transcended political parties and has had wide ranged respect.

He has moved on.

While I haven’t always agreed with him politically, I have always respected McCain the unselfish dedication he has had for the military industrial complex. A true shill.

RIP, John McCain.

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Who started the foolish propaganda: McCain a POW for six years. McCain never talked. Think about all the CIA, CIA contract agents and those suspected of being CIA killed overseas over the past forty-years. Steve Kerr, basketball coach. His father was accused of being a CIA contract agent. Dead. Colonel Higgins, USMC. Dead. Daniel Pearl, accused of being a contract CIA agent. Dead. So McCain, a commissioned officer. McCain, son of a US Navy Admiral, a man who was allowed in the highest level meetings. Are you telling me McCain did not talk but North Viet Namese allowed him to live for six years?

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While I haven’t always agreed with him politically, I have always respected McCain the unselfish dedication he has had for the military industrial complex. A true shill.

RIP, John McCain.

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Incorrect. You obviously don’t understand my political leaning. But my personal convictions are irrelevant to the discussion. McCain was great.

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I kind of liked John McCain until he picked Sarah Palin and allowed Obama to win.

He did NOT ALLOW Obama to win, he just got beat fair and square, Obama was really good campaigner, Obama even got McCain's longtime friend and Republican Colin Powell to vote for him, Powell went against his friend and party, because he was convinced Obama would be that good a President.

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Incorrect. You obviously don’t understand my political leaning. But my personal convictions are irrelevant to the discussion. McCain was war criminal.

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The 2 things that impressed me the most about McCain was when he was a prisoner of war and they used every torture technique on him imaginable to try to get information, the only information he gave them was his name, rank and that he loved his country so much, he would never tell them anything and he NEVER DID.

The other thing that was impressive was when Trump said McCain was not a Hero for being captured (Which is true, McCain was a hero because he never caved when he was tortured) McCain never let that bother him and he never tried to get back at Trump in any way.

McCain was a truly Jingoistic Patriotic American, who went through life totally in love with the USA.