Clean 1500m WR(?) is three years old today

3 years WR 3:50.07!! bravo Genze!!

Indeed, nice shitposting.

For a second I thought there's no way that's the clean world record. Then I looked at the names ahead of Willis on the list - Cacho, Farah, Makhloufi, Kiprop... What a laugh.

Let's go ahead and end this the easy way, since we know this is really how you feel.

List of World Records over time.

3:32.2 3:32.16 Filbert Bayi (TAN) 1974-02-02 Christchurch, New Zealand

3:32.1 3:32.03 Sebastian Coe (GBR) 1979-08-15 Zürich, Switzerland

3:32.1 3:32.09 Steve Ovett (GBR) 1980-07-15 Oslo, Norway

3:31.4 3:31.36 Steve Ovett (GBR) 1980-08-27 Koblenz, West Germany

3:31.24 Sydney Maree (USA) 1983-08-28 Cologne, West Germany

3:30.77 Steve Ovett (GBR) 1983-09-04 Rieti, Italy

3:29.67 Steve Cram (GBR) 1985-07-16 Nice, France

3:29.46 Saïd Aouita (MAR) 1985-08-23 Berlin, Germany

3:28.86 Noureddine Morceli (ALG) 1992-09-06 Rieti, Italy

3:27.37 Noureddine Morceli (ALG) 1995-07-12 Nice, France

3:26.00 Hicham El Guerrouj (MAR) 1998-07-14 Rome, Italy

List of clean World Records over time.

3:32.1 3:32.03 Sebastian Coe (GBR) 1979-08-15 Zürich, Switzerland

3:32.1 3:32.09 Steve Ovett (GBR) 1980-07-15 Oslo, Norway

3:31.4 3:31.36 Steve Ovett (GBR) 1980-08-27 Koblenz, West Germany

3:30.77 Steve Ovett (GBR) 1983-09-04 Rieti, Italy

3:29.67 Steve Cram (GBR) 1985-07-16 Nice, France

3:29.66 Nick Willis (NZ)

You could say that Nick had two 3rd place Olympic finishes that should be Gold medals.

Augustine Choge seems clean, I think Choge is the clean world record holder.

But you might want to give me the 1500m world record because I cannot be sure that anyone who ran faster than me did it clean.

Are you kidding me? Ryun’s 1500 (PB 3:33.1) is worth 3:24.2 when converted. Given today’s pacing and tracks, that’d be well within his capabilities. Given today’s training, 3:23 could’ve been possible.

Don’t speak of these garbage runners in the same light as the GOAT ever again.

epo bath wrote:

Indeed, nice shitposting.

For a second I thought there's no way that's the clean world record. Then I looked at the names ahead of Willis on the list - Cacho, Farah, Makhloufi, Kiprop... What a laugh.

Prove Makhoufi is dirty...

He had a monster kick to win gold in 2012, so? How is that proof of any doping? Shelby Houlihan just did the same thing two weeks in a row to the best of the best in the same event and most of you think shes clean. Whats the difference? Maybe its because he was coached by Jama Aden? Maybe in 2012, but then he left Jama in 2014 and still posted a 3:28 1500m and a 1:42 800m . Why is it so insane to believe one of the fastest 800m runners in the world (and probably the fastest 800m runner out of the 1500m runners) could lay down a great kick and run sub 3:30?

Do you have inside information that we dont?

This troll attempt is tired.

Coevett wrote:

most people pick Nick Willis and his 3:29.66, set three years ago today in Monaco, as the 1500 clean WR.

Lol, sure they do buddy.

Willis and Muir are the clean WR holders in the 1500. Great athletes.

clean world record is 3:37.04 from Josef Plachy

Plachy wrote:

clean world record is 3:37.04 from Josef Plachy

seconded.

Clean WR holder is Albin Lermusiaux. As we all suspected, the 4-minute 1500m barrier was truly unbreakable after all.

Let's go ahead and end this the easy way, since we know this is really how you feel.

List of World Records over time.

3:32.2 3:32.16 Filbert Bayi (TAN) 1974-02-02 Christchurch, New Zealand

3:32.1 3:32.03 Sebastian Coe (GBR) 1979-08-15 Zürich, Switzerland

3:32.1 3:32.09 Steve Ovett (GBR) 1980-07-15 Oslo, Norway

3:31.4 3:31.36 Steve Ovett (GBR) 1980-08-27 Koblenz, West Germany

3:31.24 Sydney Maree (USA) 1983-08-28 Cologne, West Germany

3:30.77 Steve Ovett (GBR) 1983-09-04 Rieti, Italy

3:29.67 Steve Cram (GBR) 1985-07-16 Nice, France

3:29.46 Saïd Aouita (MAR) 1985-08-23 Berlin, Germany

3:28.86 Noureddine Morceli (ALG) 1992-09-06 Rieti, Italy

3:27.37 Noureddine Morceli (ALG) 1995-07-12 Nice, France

3:26.00 Hicham El Guerrouj (MAR) 1998-07-14 Rome, Italy

List of clean World Records over time.

3:32.1 3:32.03 Sebastian Coe (GBR) 1979-08-15 Zürich, Switzerland

3:32.1 3:32.09 Steve Ovett (GBR) 1980-07-15 Oslo, Norway

3:31.4 3:31.36 Steve Ovett (GBR) 1980-08-27 Koblenz, West Germany

3:30.77 Steve Ovett (GBR) 1983-09-04 Rieti, Italy

3:29.67 Steve Cram (GBR) 1985-07-16 Nice, France

3:29.66 Nick Willis (NZ)[/quote]

This is so racist. So every white European, Aussie, I'm sure you'd say American is clean. Bonkers. Everyone dopes

1. no proof they were doping in 2010.

2. Makhloufi posted his best times well after he left Jamas group. If he was on dope when he was with him, wouldnt his times have slowed down? also why leave a coach like Jama in his prime? Maybe he was offered drugs and got the hell out of there?

3. he has never failed or even hinted at failing a drug test. From what ive gathered, people think hes doping because of how well he kicked in a SLOW (3:34) tactical race, a race which had Leo Manzano kick harder.

asking for an Algerian wrote:

1. no proof they were doping in 2010.

2. Makhloufi posted his best times well after he left Jamas group. If he was on dope when he was with him, wouldnt his times have slowed down? also why leave a coach like Jama in his prime? Maybe he was offered drugs and got the hell out of there?

3. he has never failed or even hinted at failing a drug test. From what ive gathered, people think hes doping because of how well he kicked in a SLOW (3:34) tactical race, a race which had Leo Manzano kick harder.

What would constitute proof? Ask people on the circuit where and when the rumors began. Ask how Torrence and Cook knew what they were doing. Once a doper always a doper.

Coevett wrote:

Jesus, I give up on this board.

Ahoj! Why don't you stick to what you wrote in the other thread? :) (see above)

I promise you you won't be missed.

Seriously, you remind me of the high school bully who was so dumb, the only way he could think of to get some attention was to beat the other kids up.

I've been a regular here for over a decade.

I have seen the likes of you come and go.

You will go too, one day. You will run out of trolling material, people will ignore you or you will get banned, and this will stop being fun to you. Then you can go and post on letsracism.com or letshatekenyans.com or whatever.

Why not leave today, like you wrote in the other thread? :)

epo bath wrote:

asking for an Algerian wrote:

1. no proof they were doping in 2010.

2. Makhloufi posted his best times well after he left Jamas group. If he was on dope when he was with him, wouldnt his times have slowed down? also why leave a coach like Jama in his prime? Maybe he was offered drugs and got the hell out of there?

3. he has never failed or even hinted at failing a drug test. From what ive gathered, people think hes doping because of how well he kicked in a SLOW (3:34) tactical race, a race which had Leo Manzano kick harder.

What would constitute proof? Ask people on the circuit where and when the rumors began. Ask how Torrence and Cook knew what they were doing. Once a doper always a doper.

a sudden drop in Maks times, after maturity/in his prime (if Shelby can get away with it at 25, Mak can get away with it at an earlier age barring its not ridiculous).

consistently impressive races in rapid succession.

an actual explanation of why he got faster AFTER leaving Jamas group.

At the end of the day, his times and accomplishments match up with what he has shown to be capable of. He doesn't show any unreal speed, 1:42 is insane but not out of the realm of natural, and 3:28 is believable based on his speed. His progression also makes sense with how he aged, decent jumps up until his early 20s, a few fast runs in his mid to late 20s, and well, we dont really know after that because hes been mostly absent since 2016. nothing about him screams doper other than a coach he left 4 years ago, (wonder why he left...)