Ben True out of USA's?

If he’s already in Europe, and racing in Europe the next few weeks, why fly back to the US, have to adjust to a new time zone and interior training, then fly back to Europe and readjust, missing more training. Flights back and forth aren’t cheap.

round and round wrote:

lrc vett wrote:

Ben is one of those guys that has a few rabid haters on here for no reason whatsoever.

We definitely don't hate ben true. He's awesome. We hate the letsrun ben true lovers who, for reasons that are not clear, think he's a world beater and cannot be rational or objective about his talent and ability to put together a good performance in a big race. He's just not as good as many want him to be

Ben true is a great guy and great runner, but he's moved on to focus on his coffee business and had a great run

Why in the world would you hate anyone for that kind of reason? Seriously? Lame.

Sand Dunes wrote:

Harritan wrote:

Didn’t he just run a 7:41 3k?

62 something for half marathon

7:41 for 3k at Ostrava meet, in which he got caught in bad position. Probably could've won if he had better race tactics.

8:23 at the Pre meet, which was a tactical race.

13:16 at the Stockholm meet.

Has had a pretty solid season so far. In my opinion he's underrated. And, after Rupp has been the best American born track runner over the last few years. Only American to win a distance event at a diamond league meet.

Please don't let pesky facts get in the way of a good argument.

The Angel of Death wrote:

Nippon Telenet wrote:

Let's be real. True was always done. Never rose above the ranks of a C-lister. Should have stuck to skiing.

True has a medal from World XC.

Thanks for making his point.

Sand Dunes wrote:

Only American to win a distance event at a diamond league meet.

No, Lauren Fleshman won a Diamond League 5k.

Weak. wrote:

round and round wrote:

We definitely don't hate ben true. He's awesome. We hate the letsrun ben true lovers who, for reasons that are not clear, think he's a world beater and cannot be rational or objective about his talent and ability to put together a good performance in a big race. He's just not as good as many want him to be

Ben true is a great guy and great runner, but he's moved on to focus on his coffee business and had a great run

Why in the world would you hate anyone for that kind of reason? Seriously? Lame.

Slow down, i don't hate anyone - i was being dramatic and referring the previous poster's language.

some refuse to objectively see the situation as it is. don't get me wrong, True is an amazing runner, but he isn't going to fall out of the coffers and win an olympic or WC medal like many think he is. He isn't even going to win USA's...yet (i hope i'm wrong)

Ryan Hill is better than True but gets way less discussion than those that pin their hopes on Ben. Hill is more successful and not even firmly in the "A-class" tier of elites

Hill:

1500 - 3:35

3000 - 7:30 (4th all-time american)

5000 - 13:05

medals, championships etc...

round and round wrote:

Weak. wrote:

Why in the world would you hate anyone for that kind of reason? Seriously? Lame.

Slow down, i don't hate anyone - i was being dramatic and referring the previous poster's language.

some refuse to objectively see the situation as it is. don't get me wrong, True is an amazing runner, but he isn't going to fall out of the coffers and win an olympic or WC medal like many think he is. He isn't even going to win USA's...yet (i hope i'm wrong)

Ryan Hill is better than True but gets way less discussion than those that pin their hopes on Ben. Hill is more successful and not even firmly in the "A-class" tier of elites

Hill:

1500 - 3:35

3000 - 7:30 (4th all-time american)

5000 - 13:05

medals, championships etc...

Ben True:

INDOOR

One Mile 3:57.31

3000 Metres 7:40.96

Two Miles 8:11.33

5000 Metres 13:06.74

OUTDOOR

800 Metres 1:50.07

1500 Metres 3:36.05

One Mile 3:59.99

3000 Metres 7:35.53

Two Miles 8:23.76

5000 Metres 13:02.74

10,000 Metres 27:41.17

5 Kilometres 13:20

10 Kilometres 27:51

15 Kilometres 43:04

10 Miles Road 46:48

Half Marathon 1:02:39

Ryan Hill:

OUTDOOR

DISCIPLINE

1000 Metres 2:20.26

1500 Metres 3:35.59

One Mile 3:56.78

3000 Metres 7:30.93

Two Miles 8:22.36

5000 Metres 13:05.69

10,000 Metres 29:32.28

5 Kilometres 13:57

8 Kilometres 22:37

Indoor:

800 Metres 1:50.22

1500 Metres 3:39.50

One Mile 3:54.89

3000 Metres 7:34.87

Two Miles 8:11.56

5000 Metres 13:07.61

TrackBot! Compare Ben True vs Ryan Hill

TrackBot sucks. That guy never returns my calls anymore.

FYI He was in Maine for his sister’s wedding during USAs. Thought that would be helpful info!

lrc vett wrote:

The Angel of Death wrote:

True has a medal from World XC.

Ben is one of those guys that has a few rabid haters on here for no reason whatsoever.

Throwing your wife under the bus is a good reason to be hated.

round and round wrote:

some refuse to objectively see the situation as it is. don't get me wrong, True is an amazing runner, but he isn't going to fall out of the coffers and win an olympic or WC medal like many think he is. He isn't even going to win USA's...yet (i hope i'm wrong)

It is woefully inaccurate to say that "many think" he is going to win an Olympic or WC medal.

Anti-blue collar wrote:

lrc vett wrote:

Ben is one of those guys that has a few rabid haters on here for no reason whatsoever.

Throwing your wife under the bus is a good reason to be hated.

Yawn. What a gross exaggeration.

Everyone knows that his wife was the only Olympian in Rio and boy was Ben bitter.

Check out Twitter and watch how he bashes Nike (a company that once helped him) and WADA and USADA. Always someone else's fault with this guy. Bitterness is ugly.

Gender Inferior wrote:

Everyone knows that his wife was the only Olympian in Rio and boy was Ben bitter.

Check out Twitter and watch how he bashes Nike (a company that once helped him) and WADA and USADA. Always someone else's fault with this guy. Bitterness is ugly.

He might have made the Olympic team if he had been drinking beet root juice with her.