Nutrition expert Victor Conte says it's best to train as soon as you wake up

Not only testosterone is important.

There are others hormones for example cortisol. Remember Kenyans train at 6am.

Conte is one of the best things to ever happen to T&F and pro sports in general. It's ridiculous the amount of flak he receives from virtue signalers like the people on these boards.

It’s best to train right after you take a dump so that you eliminate loose stool issues.

Rash-putin wrote:

Conte is one of the best things to ever happen to T&F and pro sports in general. It's ridiculous the amount of flak he receives from virtue signalers like the people on these boards.

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Also, Jamin, please dont give any more attention to Conte. He was caught manufacturing and distributing undetectable steroids to a huge number of athletes. He went to jail for it. Now that he is out, he is tryijg desperately to do anything he can to be taken seriously again. He will never have any novel ideas unless he gets into doping again, he is a chemistry dropout, not an expert in physiology.

Smoking increase testosterone levels. So, if testosterone levels are what you care about then smoke away.

Scorpion_runner wrote:

No matter what you think of him, The man knows his science. If I were to juice ( I'm against it, but respect the science of it), he would be my go to guy. The guy can make a cocktail that would have no ill affect on your body whatsoever, but build up your body.

He totally changed the game for a lot of athletes. Before the CLEAR, athletes were taking OTC horse steroids and buying peds from the back of muscle magazines. That is why a lot of athletes had roid rage back then, and developed bad kidneys and livers.

Now the only thing athletes are concerned with is getting busted. Health issues related to PED use is basically a thing of the past.

Wait a second! Aren't you the same guy that was flagged or banned at a shoe store for abusing their return policy essentially cheating them out of a benevokent return policy and then you suggested to play the race card?

Well, as it’s said: it takes a cheat to know a cheat.

Start smoking wrote:

Smoking increase testosterone levels. So, if testosterone levels are what you care about then smoke away.

Correct

simple rule

wake up no hard on no hard run

jamin wrote:

Says your testosterone levels are twice as high in the mornings as in the evenings. I always run in the evening; maybe I should change that.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4gmR9yKfNKY

Testosterone is the male mentallity. You choose your own mentallity. You choose your own fate.

I have better workouts in the morning. I might feel terrible waking up and getting started but once you get started you end up having a higher quality workout.

I know nothing of testosterone levels or whatever but have done serious doubles for many years. For a time this winter I tried the same route at 4 am & again at 4pm back to back Monday to Friday for 2 straight months, wearing a GPS watch and found that even if I pegged my HR at 130bpm (my easy pace), my morning run always took at least 2 minutes longer than the night run. It takes me longer to warm up in the morning and doesn’t ever feel really great. I’ve also tried workouts, but just prefer the night workout time for the same reasons.

I think anytime is a good time to train. Personally, I like around lunch so I have the rest of the day to be relaxed from the workout. Some days I even talk back to the boss!

kwefk wrote:

I have the rest of the day to be relaxed from the workout.

But, do you look relaxed???

Correlation does not equal causation.

T is great, but it is only one of many contributing factors that affect running performance. One in particular is having a primed nervous system ready for moving quickly. Training close to waking up will require additional prescribed nervous system work to achieve similar running benefits that evening sessions provide.

I personally believe a sub two hour marathon is much more possible in the evening just because the body is much more alert and warmed up. One could make the argument that the athletes are accustomed to early sessions, however I still believe evenings are faster!

The sad thing is people are going to see this thread and think Victor is right, despite providing no research supported evidence. Alex Hutchinson gave research on this a few yrs ago. If you work out twice a day, followed by a good dose of protein and carbs, you’re getting a lot of compounded gains. Train at midday and you get the benefit of the heat and Vit D. Testosterone is only one variable. If anyone has research to support Victor please share.

https://www.runnersworld.com/sweat-science/the-physiology-of-morning-v-evening-workouts

T levels are higher in the morning because you are just emerging from a long anabolic energy state where tissue is built and repaired. It takes a long time to switch to an amped up catabolic energy state for a good workout, except for senior citizens who can switch between asleep and wide awake almost instantly.

Nothing better than waking up at 5.30 am and running hard.

I feel energized by the cool morning runs and i have the rest of the day free for my family and work.

Reality is many people is too soft for that and look for any kind of excuse.

My take on things is that when you run early in the morning, you're coming directly out of a prolonged state that is not conducive to high athletic performance. Element of this include:

-Waking up out of a state of prolonged dehydration where your body's water has been used to restore and rebuild. Typically you immediately wake up and pee a lot, and it's almost always very concentrated. The high fluid loss and urine concentration is evidence of this dehydration. Exercising in this state just compounds the dehydration and causes greater muscle damage.

-You've been in a horizontal position for an extended period of time, which causes blood/interstitial fluid to pool in the legs and lower half of body, which will cause you to feel extra junky.

-Sleep is typically the point at which your body reaches its lowest core temperature. So the discrepancy between this low temperature and the elevated temperature your body is in during exercise could mean it takes longer to warm up and/or your perceived exertion is higher due to the shock to your system.

Never understood why people want to wake up and immediately run and feel like crap doing it. Training is already hard enough. Take some time to wake up, hydrate, get the blood flowing, and perhaps eat something to modulate the blood sugar levels. It could go a long way.

A cup of coffee followed by a solid dump, and I'm ready for a 2 hour run.