Snowflake 1st year medical residents complain having to wear shorter lab coat is "offensive", Johns Hopkins agrees!!

I don't k now any mature rational thinkers who call anyone else "snowflake."

Riannn Hall wrote:

Grow some balls wrote:

The problem isn't that millenials are snowflakes much more than previous generations. The problem is that now a days no one is willing to stand up to them. No one has the balls to stand up against the "victim" so now more and more the victims run the world.

that's BS. Instead of address them personally or going to the Hospital Rojo just started a thread on it. That will show them!!!!

I bet Rojo is offended that no one in the JHU medical system cares what he thinks about the length of their coats

Grow some balls wrote:

The problem isn't that millenials are snowflakes much more than previous generations. The problem is that now a days no one is willing to stand up to them. No one has the balls to stand up against the "victim" so now more and more the victims run the world.

You’re absolutely right. Victims should be treated as criminals. In fact, if I shoot your family I should not be prosecuted because the victims shouldn’t be allowed to tell me what to do. And anyone who prosecutes me should be thrown in prison for being a criminal.

Good times.

R0g0 wrote:

rojo is quickly turning lets run into the clickbait nonsense that is flotrack

Such a frigg'in bummer. SO disappointed to see who started this thread.

Whining about the whining makes you just as much of a snowflake as does those you refer to as the same for whatever reason you happen to choose to.

Yeah, this is the problem with equating victims with "victims".

My understanding of the medical field status pyramid is that it's like

1. M.D.

2. Resident who went to "real" med school

3. D.O. or other title that is legally allowed to practice real medicine

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So residents are high up there and shouldn't be complaining

jamin wrote:

My understanding of the medical field status pyramid is that it's like

1. M.D.

2. Resident who went to "real" med school

3. D.O. or other title that is legally allowed to practice real medicine

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172.

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So residents are high up there and shouldn't be complaining

So in your world, an MD who hasn't done residency is higher than one who is currently a resident?

THis is nothing new wrote:

Most residency programs did away with this a long time ago anyway. Only Med students wear short coats these days. The other poster is right, everyone (even ancillary staff) wear long coats. This is really not a big deal and nobody in the hospital really cares. The problem is mainly if you are a patient , you may have no idea who your doctor actually is.

We still do at Mass General. I was required to wear a short coat, even as a vascular fellow.

no coat needed wrote:

Luv2Run wrote:

Well soon med students will be complaining...

Med students do complain about the short white coat. Not because they'd rather have a long one, but because most would rather just not wear a coat at all.

And really I'm surprised that patients aren't against the coats as well. The thing is just a big formite.

*fomite

OK. But you’re at Man’s Greatest Hospital!

Like I said ‘most’ have done away. Trained at Pittsburgh, Michigan, WashU - no short coat required but they’re not Harvard. However, still required to get attending gloves , hold door, etc

Grow some balls wrote:

The problem isn't that millenials are snowflakes much more than previous generations. The problem is that now a days no one is willing to stand up to them. No one has the balls to stand up against the "victim" so now more and more the victims run the world.

Funny because I believe the problem is no one stands up to bullies. The ones complaining are the bullies of the group not the victims.

Honest-to-god, second-year resident at Johns Hopkins here.

I’m not sure what is more shocking: the fact that 1) the length of a white coat bothered interns enough to complain, 2) that the change of a few inches in the length of JHU interns’ white coat was considered newsworthy by the Baltimore Sun, or 3) that Rojo and a bunch of people not in medicine at all have strong opinions on the length of interns’ white coats.

It just doesn’t matter. At all. It’s like the people who get on here and complain about Rupp wearing wearing arm warmers and a face mask. Who cares?

If you're a rookie at something, you'll be marked as one somehow, no matter what. This is true of everything, and it should be.

What is the point of complaining about it, instead of seizing the opportunity to stand out while people are paying attention? The rookie of the year becomes the next star. Good job performance is ignored once you have experience.

If we are going to stick to tradition aren't we supposed to be killing cows, lambs and goats to appease god and stoning people to death for certain "sins" ? Times change ro.

Weird, original post was 8:44 AM so it’s not just the usual drunk-while-watching-ESPN rojo rant? Or maybe just forgot to hit the done button ‘til the next morning?

sign of the times I suppose-I had to wear those dorky, short coats as a med student 20 years ago-I couldn't wait to get rid of it when I graduated. As other posters have noted, the hierarchy on the hospital wards is less defined than in the past, with other health professionals such as lab techs wearing the "long coat".

just to clarify wrote:

jamin wrote:

My understanding of the medical field status pyramid is that it's like

1. M.D.

2. Resident who went to "real" med school

3. D.O. or other title that is legally allowed to practice real medicine

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172.

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So residents are high up there and shouldn't be complaining

So in your world, an MD who hasn't done residency is higher than one who is currently a resident?

The DOs that I know had to do hellish residency before being recognized as MDs.

If I had to do what it took to get to residency, I wouldn't complain about what they told me to wear because it is distinguished. It shows my accomplishment. It also shows that I am still learning. Many younger doctors have better knowledge regarding latest medical advances. Some of the older docs that I have consulted are too stuck in the past.

doctorj wrote:

If we are going to stick to tradition aren't we supposed to be killing cows, lambs and goats to appease god and stoning people to death for certain "sins" ? Times change ro.

YES.