Fantastic / Must read NY Times expose on the use of peptides as a PED. The NFL let tons of abusers go scot-free.

"He was like 58 years old and was beating Houston in sprints at the time Houston was running 9.0 for 100 yards."

If you believe that, there is nothing I care to do to enlighten you.

Much of this stuff is pure b.s.

tsrhrtyj wrote:

Big Dog Outlier wrote:

https://www.si.com/olympics/houston-mctear-sprinter-records-olympics-nine-seconds

Great post. Thank you.

If you watch the entire 60m race there is a nice 800m race following it featuring Mike Boit, Mark Belger and Mark Enyeart. McTear ran that WR while buzzed on vodka and marijuana.

Sprintgeezer wrote:

"He was like 58 years old and was beating Houston in sprints at the time Houston was running 9.0 for 100 yards."

If you believe that, there is nothing I care to do to enlighten you.

Much of this stuff is pure b.s.

You're BS, Sprintgeezer. You know jack-sh*t about sprinting.

Actually... wrote:

Sprintgeezer wrote:

"He was like 58 years old and was beating Houston in sprints at the time Houston was running 9.0 for 100 yards."

If you believe that, there is nothing I care to do to enlighten you.

Much of this stuff is pure b.s.

You're BS, Sprintgeezer. You know jack-sh*t about sprinting.

First "Sprintgeezer" is suppose to know everything about sprinting and now he doesn't. Which one is it LRC posters?

While I obviously don't know everything--especially about sprinting history--I know that no 58-year-old is going faster than 9.0 in the 100 yards.

Look at this page:

http://www.alltime-athletics.com/m_100yok.htm

A 58-year-old running beating the 100yard world record, huh?

Like I said, all that stuff needs to be taken in context.

Yes McTear was insanely quick in the 100 yards, relatively even quicker at shorter distances. It should be left at that.

rojo wrote:

Does anyone know if Peptides are a) illegal or b) against anti-doping rules?

I think I may start my own supplement company.

Of course they are. Read WADAs annual list, they generalise about these things in the present because they know that they don't know all what is on the market at the moment and they are always learning about new Peptides.

Yikes, I shop at the grocery store next to where this dude mailed everything from.

Show us your neck muscles.

So what’s more likely here really? Houston McTear’s uncle is an absolute monster as well, or our 12.8 100 guy, Springteezer, has a relative who threw the shot 3 times in his entire life and flirted with breaking one of the longest standing records in track? Hmmm.

Sprintgeezer wrote:

"I know it is difficult for a 12.8 second 100m guy like Sprintgeezer to understand that level of talent, but it does exist."

No, I have seen it. In my own family there is a guy who does nothing but fish and watch TV. When he was young and I was practicing some shot, he picked one up and threw very close to the (still-standing) US HS record on his third and last throw. I am not kidding. Record for 16-lb is Carter's 20.65, from...

wejo wrote:

I'v been seeing references to IGF-1 on here since 2002 (I just went and looked it up when the first reference was). I didn't really understand what it was until now. Great reporting by NYTimes.

But that is nothing new. Seriously, I am amazed by what you and rojo don't know.

Or more precisely: what you say you don't know.

Well, I would have to say that a 58 yr old running a 100yd wr is the least plausible thing i have heard on this board. Advantage sg

Good post.

The biggest disappointment of getting older for me has been realizing how morally corrupt so many people are and how so many people get away with stuff they have no business getting away with.

rojo wrote:

The biggest disappointment of getting older for me has been realizing how morally corrupt so many people are and how so many people get away with stuff they have no business getting away with.

Rojo, you are one funny guy.

This, just 2 minutes after I wrote to Weldon"I am amazed by what you and rojo don't know. "

Thanks for the confirmation. :-)

Let's Get To The Bottom Of This wrote:

Actually... wrote:

You're BS, Sprintgeezer. You know jack-sh*t about sprinting.

First "Sprintgeezer" is suppose to know everything about sprinting and now he doesn't. Which one is it LRC posters?

You must be new here. The only posters on this board who think Sprintgeezer knows anything about sprinting are as delusional and confused as he is. We're talking about the guy who went on a rampage against Wallace Spearmon when Spearmon was busted for getting a cortisone injection by a doctor for his separated hip tendon, too close to a competition. Mr. Geezer also went on a screed against Aries Merritt in which he implied he had all kinds of inside information about Merritt's behavior. The dude is a whack job.

All proteins are made up amino acids, which are amphoteric (act as both an acid an a base) compounds with the following formula: H3N-CH-COO-

+ R

A protein results from the unique sequence of bonded amino acids and its subsequent 3-dimensional arrangement. It can be made up of several individual chains (hence the name "polypeptide")

Now to answer your question, a peptide is a short sequence of amino acids, which can act as a cellular messenger to activate target receptors in the organism.

Collagen peptides are just partially digested collagen molecules (itself a polypeptide protein).

I hope that helps.

Oh great, so the authorities don't have the resources or don't care and everybody involved in the doping industry can basically get away with it and not have to worry about serious repercussions. In that environment, why not engage in doping? It's so easy!

Actually... wrote:

Sprintgeezer wrote:

"He was like 58 years old and was beating Houston in sprints at the time Houston was running 9.0 for 100 yards."

If you believe that, there is nothing I care to do to enlighten you.

Much of this stuff is pure b.s.

You're BS, Sprintgeezer. You know jack-sh*t about sprinting.

So are you disputing Sprintgeezer's assertion that no 58 year old can beat a 9.0 100 yard sprinter?

This article was great. Thanks for sharing.

https://www.si.com/olympics/houston-mctear-sprinter-records-olympics-nine-seconds

The important things are staying functional, and using your awareness and knowledge to good ends.

Staying functional can be difficult. The more you know and understand, the more you realize how little others know and understand. It can be difficult to find starting-points with many people because they are completely ignorant/innocent. It's easier with kids because you don't expect wisdom and experience from them, but with them it's important to keep an open discussion on the level of ideas, rather than preaching.

On particular issues like doping, I have pretty much given up on adults--in contrast to a guy like Dick Pound, who has managed to remain functional at the adult level, although in a diminished role. My only real interest in the doping issue now lies in the health and development of kids, who deserve the best of what adults, and the world, have to offer. That interest is what keeps me functional with kids and youth. With adults, I tend to be caustic and sarcastic.

Trying to make kids aware of the many options in life, and trying to help give them the tools to understand dialogue and separate the wheat from the chaff, are what I consider to be my good ends. Also, to a lesser extent, to preserve the dignity and honorability of athletic competition, one form of human interaction, such that nobody involved in the experience is diminished in any way.

I have a strong prevailing interest in the ideas of truth and justice, which caused me to decide to become a lawyer when I was younger. Although many would argue that our legal system hardly cares about either truth or justice, an independent lawyer can sometimes further these ends to good effect, more than can a non-lawyer. It's not a perfect path, but it is a path nonetheless. On the flip side, it has given me insight into malfeasance. What people think and do, can be amazing, and even shocking.

Stay functional, find a good end, and try to stick to it. It can be hard, but it's better than the alternative. My 2 cents