A lot of assumptions being made on this thread for people not on the jury/in the courtroom.
A lot of assumptions being made on this thread for people not on the jury/in the courtroom.
No Hope For Mankind wrote:
Gramps wrote:
Six hour standoff?
Cops rushed the place to cut down on paying cop overtime, a money-saving move. Well done.
Sure...a real money saving move. 37 million bucks vs probably a few thousand in overtime. Brilliant...remember they were there to serve misdemeanor & outstanding traffic warrants. Wow....that's a real dangerous criminal. Lol.
Obviously, Sarcasm is lost on you people. I will take my nonsense elsewhere.
On a brighter note, I note that in the photo that girl has braces on her teeth.
The woman pulled a gun on the officers and liberals will still vilify the officers. One simple prevention from being shot at is to not point guns at other people with guns. All of this over a silly traffic violation, she intentionally blocked out her license plate and got pulled over and then refused to pay the fine. I seriously don't understand the stupidity of some people in this world.
What this black man needed was a job.
There are no jobs out there.
Let it Rupp wrote:
I seriously don't understand the stupidity of some people in this world.
It starts with the politicians of this country.
Divided States of America wrote:
Let it Rupp wrote:
I seriously don't understand the stupidity of some people in this world.
It starts with the politicians of this country.
Or perhaps the people electing them?
why does a troubled 23 year old black woman have a shot gun, was she a hunter? Something seems off here.........
I'm usually pretty cynical of cops, but if it's true that she pointed a gun at them, I really don't see how they weren't justified. If I point a gun at someone who is armed (cop or not), I 100% expect them to try to shoot me.
broke in 5 years
Crazy lady wrote:
Think This One Through wrote:
.....The police should have known this, backed off securing the perimeter and established negotiations......
You did read the part about it already being a 6 hour standoff? Police supposed to just wait for years.?
Good point. If it's going to make them miss their next run to Dunkin Donuts better to just blow her away and get it over with.
SirReggie wrote:
Blue can Blow Me wrote:
Pigs should be held accountable for their crimes each time, not just this one.
The pigs responsible for this man's death should be executed in front of their children.
Enjoy the weather everyone :)
I'm sure the city will appeal, it will drag on for years, and the minimal money her family gets will be spent on drugs, booze, and gambling.
That's Balto City for ya, hometown of one of the BroJos.
This was in Baltimore COUNTY.
O.J jury.....Dumb and bigoted...
Poyo wrote:
Also we read enough about police shootings of black people that at some point it’s fair to ask if a black person is reasonable in using a gun to defend themselves against what may seem to them to be a murderous gang.
I mean, honestly, maybe she had the shotgun because she was afraid of being shot in circumstances that don’t merit lethal force, like, I dont know, serving a misdemeanor warrant,
She was 100 percent correct, because that's exactly what happened.
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Turn around is fair play ` wrote:
Right, that would have been more reasonable.
Using the police logic, the police were all pointing their guns at her, therefore they should all have been shot.
Lets Think This One Through wrote:
C'mon man!...did she discharge or threaten anyone with the weapon? Was she a murder supect or violent offender that presented a clear & imminent danger?
They were there to serve stupid misdemeanor warrants - the police could have retreated out of the apartment, secured a perimeter and started negotiations. She wasn't going to go anywhere and the police would have time on their side. So many times, the police shoot first and ask questions later....nothing new there.
That's the point. However instead of doing that, they were pointing guns at her.
Therefore, using their logic, she had the right to kill all of them.
Ways You Can Be Killed During An Encounter with Police
“Police are specialists in violence. They are armed, trained, and authorized to use force. With varying degrees of subtlety, this colors their every action. Like the possibility of arrest, the threat of violence is implicit in every police encounter. Violence, as well as the law, is what they represent.”—Author Kristian Williams
Some recent encounters:
Killed for standing in a “shooting stance.” In California, police opened fire on and killed a mentally challenged—unarmed—black man within minutes of arriving on the scene, allegedly because he removed a vape smoking device from his pocket and took a “shooting stance.”
Killed for holding a cell phone. Police in Arizona shot a man who was running away from U.S. Marshals after he refused to drop an object that turned out to be a cellphone.
Killed for behaving oddly and holding a baseball bat. Responding to a domestic disturbance call, Chicago police shot and killed 19-year-old college student Quintonio LeGrier who had reportedly been experiencing mental health problems and was carrying a baseball bat around the apartment where he and his father lived.
Killed for opening the front door. Bettie Jones, who lived on the floor below LeGrier, was also fatally shot—this time, accidentally—when she attempted to open the front door for police.
Killed for being a child in a car pursued by police. Jeremy David Mardis, six years old and autistic, died after being shot multiple times by Louisiana police in the head and torso. Police opened fire on the car—driven by Jeremy’s father, Chris Few, who was also shot—and then allegedly lied, claiming that they were attempting to deliver an outstanding warrant, that Few resisted arrest, that he shot at police (no gun was found), and that he tried to ram his car into a police cruiser. Body camera footage refuted the police’s claims.
Killed for attacking police with a metal spoon. In Alabama, police shot and killed a 50-year-old man who reportedly charged a police officer while holding “a large metal spoon in a threatening manner.”
Killed for running in an aggressive manner holding a tree branch. Georgia police shot and killed a 47-year-old man wearing only shorts and tennis shoes who, when first encountered, was sitting in the woods against a tree, only to start running towards police holding a stick in an “aggressive manner.”
Killed for crawling around naked. Atlanta police shot and killed an unarmed man who was reported to have been “acting deranged, knocking on doors, crawling around on the ground naked.” Police fired two shots at the man after he reportedly starting running towards them.
Killed for hunching over in a defensive posture. Responding to a domestic trouble call, multiple officers with the Baltimore County police forced their way inside a home where, fearing for their safety and the safety of others,” three officers opened fire on an unarmed 41-year-old man who was hunched over in a defensive posture. The man was killed in front of his two young daughters and their mother.
Killed because a police officer accidentally pulled out his gun instead of his taser. An Oklahoma man suspected of trying to sell an illegal handgun was shot and killed after a 73-year-old reserve deputy inadvertently fired his gun instead of his taser. “Oh! I shot him! I'm sorry!” the deputy cried out.
Killed for wearing dark pants and a basketball jersey. Donnell Thompson, a mentally disabled 27-year-old described as gentle and shy, was shot and killed after police—searching for a carjacking suspect reportedly wearing similar clothing—encountered him lying motionless in a neighborhood yard. Police “only” opened fire with an M4 rifle after Thompson first failed to respond to their flash bang grenades and then started running after being hit by foam bullets.
Killed for telling police you lawfully own a firearm and have a conceal-and-carry permit. Philando Castile was shot and killed during a routine traffic stop allegedly over a broken tail light. As he was reaching for his license and registration, Castile explained to police that he had a conceal-and-carry permit. That’s all it took for police to shoot Castile four times in the presence of his girlfriend and her 4-year-old daughter.
Killed for leaving anywhere at all when a police officer pulls up. Deravis Caine Rogers was killed after starting to drive away from an apartment complex right around the same time as a police officer pulled up. Despite the fact that the police officer had no reason to believe Rogers was a threat or was suspected of any illegal activity, the officer fired into Rogers’ passenger side window.
Killed for driving while deaf. In North Carolina, a state trooper shot and killed 29-year-old Daniel K. Harris—who was deaf—after Harris initially failed to pull over during a traffic stop.
Killed for being homeless. Los Angeles police shot an unarmed homeless man after he failed to stop riding his bicycle and then proceeded to run from police.
Killed for being old and brandishing a shoehorn. John Wrana, a 95-year-old World War II veteran, lived in an assisted living center, used a walker to get around, and was shot and killed by police who mistook the shoehorn in his hand for a 2-foot-long machete and fired multiple beanbag rounds from a shotgun at close range.
Killed for having your car break down on the road. Terence Crutcher, unarmed and black, was shot and killed by Oklahoma police after his car broke down on the side of the road. Crutcher was shot in the back while walking towards his car with his hands up.
Killed for holding a garden hose. California police were ordered to pay $6.5 million after they opened fire on a man holding a garden hose, believing it to be a gun. Douglas Zerby was shot 12 times and pronounced dead on the scene.
Shot seven times for peeing outdoors. Eighteen-year-old Keivon Young was shot seven times by police from behind while urinating outdoors. Young was just zipping up his pants when he heard a commotion behind him and then found himself struck by a hail of bullets from two undercover cops. Allegedly officers mistook Young—5’4,” 135 lbs., and guilty of nothing more than taking a leak outdoors—for a 6’ tall, 200 lb. murder suspect whom they later apprehended. Young was charged with felony resisting arrest and two counts of assaulting a peace officer.
Now you can make all kinds of excuses to justify these shootings, and in fact that’s exactly what you’ll hear from politicians, police unions, law enforcement officials and individuals who are more than happy to march in lockstep with the police. However, to suggest that a good citizen is a compliant citizen and that obedience will save us from the police state is not only recklessly irresponsible, but it is also deluded and out of touch with reality, because in the American police state, compliance is no longer enough.
Tgg wrote:
Just because you read about it doesn't mean it is true. The media is often wrong, dishonest, and political. All races are killed by police. All the evidence points to it being a financial thing not a race thing.
I'm not talking about he said/she said cases, I'm talking about where we have footage. The dude choked to death by police after selling loose cigarettes. The South Carolina guy shot in back running away from an officer. The Chicago man killed where the officer unloaded his weapon into the guy even after he was lying on the ground, then the cops erased surveillance footage from a nearby Burger King. Watch those videos and tell me where the media is being wrong, dishonest, or political. Those are just 3 I can think of off the top of my head.
What evidence are you talking about that police shootings of black people have more do with socioeconomic status rather than race?
By the way, lest anyone think I'm a police hater, I don't think any of these officers are evil. They don't wake up in the morning intending to kill a black person. But:
(1) If you have unconscious bias in your body and most of us do (Google "Project Implicit"), that can be dangerous in high pressure situations. If the government gives you the power to take a life, you need to address this bias even more than the rest of us. You need to be above reproach.
(2) Police are too trigger happy in this country in general. Basically any time they argue "I was scared for my life" they can fire at will and face few consequences. Here's a thought: try de-escalating the situation before you are scared for your life. Or if you're scared for your life, remove yourself from that situation until you have enough back up that the perp doesn't try to put up a fight. There need to be greater consequences so that police will think twice - not necessarily thinking twice before firing which happens in the blink of an eye, but thinking twice before putting themselves in a situation that will require firing.
Rewarding criminal idiocy only serves to assure its continued perpetration.
Jack^ wrote:
Rewarding criminal idiocy only serves to assure its continued perpetration.
Yes, but AA's seem determined to defend the criminals in their midst....Self destructive...
C'mon...cops love to shoot it up. And our police forces are becoming so militarized these days. Next thing you know they'll be driving tanks for patrol & launching Tomahawk missiles into homes of barricaded subjects.