Do you think the NFL is rigged?

All this conspiracy theory stuff belongs on Info-Wars.

Next you'll be saying there's a "Deep State" secret society or something out to get Trump.

Just follow the money... wrote:

In football holding can be called on every play. Calling it a couple times a game on a big play can easily stop a team from getting a larger lead. Not calling it can easily allow a team to catch up.

So I guess this explains why the ref threw a flag on Notre Dame when Rocket Ismael returned the punt for a touchdown against Colorado to win the National Title. Obviously, the University of Colorado has WAY more influence in college football than Notre Dame. The UC fan base is so much larger than ND's that they could easily pay the refs off with much more money than ND could. Notre Dame is a tiny, poor school that nobody outside of South Bend, IN follows in football.

Rudy, Rudy, Rudy! wrote:

So I guess this explains why the ref threw a flag on Notre Dame when Rocket Ismael returned the punt for a touchdown against Colorado to win the National Title. Obviously, the University of Colorado has WAY more influence in college football than Notre Dame. The UC fan base is so much larger than ND's that they could easily pay the refs off with much more money than ND could. Notre Dame is a tiny, poor school that nobody outside of South Bend, IN follows in football.

This is why it is SO EASY to manipulate games. People try to pick out certain plays or instances to argue against it. That isn't how it works. A poster above ask who or why to rig games. That is a very easy answer. Money and ego. You don't think the refs want to work the big nationally televised games? You don't think those pay more money than some Thursday night game at a D2 school? How do you get those games? Do what you can to keep the games close so you keep getting the games and the league makes millions more dollars.

Also, there is no way to have every single game be close. They can make a lot of calls to favor one basketball team, but if the other is 12-18 from the 3 point line, you aren't going to have a close game. The reality is that if you do it enough times, you will have more close games than blowouts.

Here is what I do when I do watch sports. I turn the volume off and don't use closed captioning. I just watch the game without any influence. It's EXTREMELY easy to spot if games are being manipulated. I also don't gamble or even have an interest in a lot of the games I watch so I can be objective.

At this point, the only sport I watch that would be very difficult to manipulate is baseball. That is also the sport that DOESN'T have virtually every game come down to the last batter.

Enjoy

Also want to add that I don't do any gambling of any type on sport. That would be really stupid.

Of course it's rigged - every single year they allow the worst ranked team to have the first pick from best upcoming players! That's a bunch of total commie b-llsh-t right there...

How can anyone get excited about individual matches when the entire sport is based on attempted fixing is beyond me.

Surprised wrote:

I’m actualy surprised with how many of you actually think the game is rigged. I think there could be few bad refs now and in the past who have taken money to change games. But for nfl to systematically rig it, I highly doubt it. It is too much at stake for the nfl.

I do however believe referees can get influenced from atmosphere of the game or possibly as humans not being perfect and to make certain calls that end up making the game more exciting. I don’t think there is intent to rig it, but as human nature when you have the power and the control of the game, you may unconsciously call the game in a certain way that would alter the game.

I am very surprised by your post. In the midst of all these nonsense posts, someone writes something rational and grounded in reality.

Are you too good to wear a tinfoil hat like everyone else?

I believe Deflategate was more about allowing Goddell to save face than about cheating.

I believe that the Deflategate game's score of 45-7 in favor of the Patriots likely had more to do with the Patriots being a better team than about ~1.5PSI in the first place.

I believe that Spygate was more about a disgruntled ex-employee getting his revenge than about cheating.

I believe that every single team in the league videotapes coaches to steal information and has for decades.

I believe that people who say the "game is rigged" in favor of the Patriots are textbook haters.

Finally, I believe that believing the same league who levied historical precedent-setting punishments for absurd bullshit against the Patriots while also believing the same league is "rigged" in favor of the Patriots is extremely self-contradictory.

McGruff wrote:

Finally, I believe that believing the same league who levied historical precedent-setting punishments for absurd bullshit against the Patriots while also believing the same league is "rigged" in favor of the Patriots is extremely self-contradictory.

Yep i think people are little confused around here.

However what most take for rigging is just an example of extreme deference of the refs for teams who have elite quarterbacks. Happened with Peyton, Favre, happens with Brady.

Plus, some of the rules are just plainly asinine (defensive pass interference that gets to the spot of the foul comes to mind) and a smart QB takes advantage of such presents.... I stopped watching after that quick TD before the end of the first half, and i am not even against the Pats....

"What the nfl does is have the officials keep the games close so virtually every game goes down to the last play."

Yeah, like the way they kept the Eagles Vikings game close.

Now find an example where you "think" they rigged it to keep it close, and I'll reply with many more examples of where it wasn't close.

"This is why it is SO EASY to manipulate games. People try to pick out certain plays or instances to argue against it."

That's actually what people do to argue for it being rigged. Ignore the overwhelming body of evidence. and cherry pick a play here or there. You believe it must be so because of the money involved. What do you think would happen to the multi-billion dollar business that is the NFL if someone could actually provide evidence that it is rigged? Do you really think they are bribing the refs with as much money as one of them could make writing a book exposing the charade? Now claim they would be murdered if they tried. Just keep going further down the paranoid delusion hole.

rig her mortis wrote:

If NFL games are rigged-

Why so much favoritism toward New England?

Why does the NFL hate Cleveland?

Seems like they really tried to prevent New England from winning with that 4 game suspension of Tom Brady that took two years to settle.

And if they hated Cleveland, why did they give them another team after the original Browns moved to Baltimore?

I don't think it's rigged but there are stats on certain officiating crews having more calls against some teams than other teams.

It's the subjecting calls like holding or interference that can sway a game.

NE did have help there, I must admit.

I feel bad for the idiots who think it's rigged. It must be hard being so stupid. Every big call gets reviewed from NY and there are multiple camera angles. It is very rare for a incorrect call. The referees are amazing and very much underpaid for what they do.

Half Fool wrote:

rig her mortis wrote:

If NFL games are rigged-

Why so much favoritism toward New England?

Why does the NFL hate Cleveland?

I think the Russians are involved. We need to investigate the NFL's ties with Russia. Obviously Russia loves New England and hates Clevland.

Careful brother, you're getting close to the truth. Ask yourself- why is Trump such friends with Robert Kraft and Tom Brady? Why has Robert Kraft visited Vladimir Putin and given him his Super Bowl ring?

The best case scenario is the Mueller investigation implicating Brady and throwing him in jail for treason.

I'm not sure I understand how it would benefit the NFL to rig games in favor of the Patriots. The market has to be saturated in New England by now. If the Pats win another Super Bowl, I don't think any appreciable number of people are going to become regular NFL watchers as a result.

Seems to me that if the NFL was going to pick winners, they'd do it in favor of a team whose fanbase had room to grow. If a team with relatively low viewership wins the Super Bowl, maybe their success sparks interest and leads to new fans (and converts casual fans into serious fans).

Maybe there's an explanation that I'm missing, but I just don't see what the motive for rigging things in favor of the Pats all the time would be. Brand building would seem to favor more parity over dynasty building.

I do definitely think that they "rig" games in terms of trying to keep scores artificially close, though.

Teams like the Patriots draw in a lot of hate because of their continued dominance and other teams' inability to win. If the NFL was really rigged, we'd be seeing a lot more evidence than we are now. Seriously, Pats vs. Eagles in the Super Bowl? You think the NFL wanted that? Both teams are so hated that no one is going to want to watch the game. Having the Vikings in the Super Bowl would have generated so much revenue and made so many headlines, and yet they got blown out by a franchise whose fans are hated by almost everyone.

duuu wrote:

I feel bad for the idiots who think it's rigged. It must be hard being so stupid. Every big call gets reviewed from NY and there are multiple camera angles. It is very rare for a incorrect call. The referees are amazing and very much underpaid for what they do.

I don't think it's rigged but I do want to point that penalties, such as holding and interference do not get reviewed from NY.

And they can be big calls that change the game.

RunCT wrote:

Teams like the Patriots draw in a lot of hate because of their continued dominance and other teams' inability to win. If the NFL was really rigged, we'd be seeing a lot more evidence than we are now. Seriously, Pats vs. Eagles in the Super Bowl? You think the NFL wanted that? Both teams are so hated that no one is going to want to watch the game. Having the Vikings in the Super Bowl would have generated so much revenue and made so many headlines, and yet they got blown out by a franchise whose fans are hated by almost everyone.

I think that the NFL would rather have New England and Philly in the Superbowl than Jacksonville and Minnesota. New England and Philadelphia are bigger TV markets than Jacksonville and the Twin Cities are. And people will watch a game involving a team that they hate hoping to see it lose much more readily than they'll watch a game involving teams they pay little attention to and don't care about. If Jacksonville had won the AFC game I think it's much less likely that we'd have this thread going on because the team that people hate would be out of the picture and hate generates more attention than apathy does. That's not to say that either playoff game was rigged or wasn't but in general I do believe that professional sports are manipulated to maximize TV ratings.

It’s not rigged in the sense that it’s scripted. You can’t script the game.

But, refs can easily change the outcome based on what the man wants.

Some people still think wrestling is real too....