Eric Loeffler and he’s over 40
Eric Loeffler and he’s over 40
couldn't find the article I was looking for, but I thought I read one qualifier that was a med resident. they put in some serious freaking hours
Double Time wrote:
There are a few nationally competitive athletes who work "real" jobs and have qualified to the marathon Olympic Trials or Olympic T&F Trials.
Its a shame more college athletes don't focus on school to get a CAREER that helps maintain their passion and will provide for their family later in life.
As someone who got good degree and has worked full time with a solid job while still running competitively I agree that you should be focused on your degree in college but if you're passionate about the sport there's no reason not to do both or go all in on the running. I chose to try and make work and running both work and have been fairly successful, ran 2:17 in the marathon while working full time which I think is pretty solid given my talent level.
But I've definitely sacrificed both the career and running at various points. No doubt in my mind I'd be faster if I could focus on running only, and to the clown who said those on their feet all day is advantage because it builds endurance, I can tell you when I'm on my feet more all it does is tire me out, although a little stretch now and then is nice. I also could have put more effort into my career and maybe be a little further along. But I think I found the right balance where I've been able to pursue the running, you're only young and in your prime once. But I've also developed my career where I'm not way behind the average person my age if I'd done nothing but run for 7 or 8 years.
The full time and running is doable if you're disciplined. If you want to pursue running go for it. My success in running has brought me far more pleasure than any work related achievement and I doubt that will ever change. Ten years down the road you can't go back and recapture your athletic prime, you have the rest of your life to work.
Medical me wrote:
Bob Kempainen. 2:08:47
He finished medical AFTER his pro career. I remember it was the Olympics and he packed it in to never look back again.
Late Pat Peterson. He ran 2:10:xx while working full time at Grumann.
I am. Not fast, but I don’t know many fast people, because I am usually busy working and running slowly.
work it, runner wrote:
working runner wrote:
Hey all,
Out of curiosity, how fast is the fastest marathoner you know who also works a full time forty hour a week non-running related job? Obviously I understand if you can't name names (although if there is an olympic trials runner who has a full time job I would be interested in knowing their name). I know a few sub 2:30 marathoners but they either are (a) students (b) work at a running store or (c) coach track/xc. The fastest marathoner I do know who works a non running job runs around a 2:40. I'll take the fastest female and male marathoner if your acquaintance group is indeed large enough to allow that.
Thanks.
Malcolm Richards. San Francisco. Teacher
2:13:30 marathoner.
This guy. For female, Teresa McWalters, San Francisco, Architect (way more than 40hr/wk), 2:36:30
Not a troll, but teacher is not a full time 40hr/week job. They have the most vacation of any job and are unemployed for the entire summer. It's the truth. It's a valuable tough job, but they have more free time than any other career.
what is it with letsrunners and bashing teachers?
Fastest marathoner that I know of that had a regular job...Phil Coppess of Clinton Iowa. Ran 2:10:05 at Twin Cities in the mid-80s, a course record that stood until the last few years. He worked at a grain co-op and started some of his training runs around the grain silos on his lunch hour. Beast of a runner back then.
Keep quiet? wrote:
Not a troll, but teacher is not a full time 40hr/week job. They have the most vacation of any job and are unemployed for the entire summer. It's the truth. It's a valuable tough job, but they have more free time than any other career.
A typical school day is 6 1/2 hours long. Most districts require teachers to be at work a half hour before school starts and to remain a half hour after it's done so that's a 37 1/2 hour week. There's also prep and grading which is usually done outside of school which will easily add another 2-3 hours,often more. So yes, teaching is a full time job. And as you note, teachers are unemployed in the summer, i.e., not getting paid even if their district allows them to stretch their salaries over twelve rather than ten months.
Fastest I personally know wrote:
2:14
Working full time as a letter carrier before they had trucks so he walked his route daily 6 days a week.
Russ Jones?
douglas burke wrote:
I don't personally know her, but Tirunesh Dibaba is a HIGH RANKING policewoman in Ethiopia, when I showed the article to an Ethiopian waitress,she told me to earn that rank in the police in Ethiopia, one must put in a lot of years AND hours, when I tod her T. Dibaba's age at the time, she said she must have been putting in at least 50-70 hours a week and be doing an exceptional job.
Also I don't personally know Jerome Drayton who is still the Canadian record holder 2:10.09 in the 1970's he was working a full time job 40-60 hours a week.
I trained with some Ethiopians who worked for the prison service.
As they were in the UK for several months I don't think they wee doing much in the way of prison duties.
Kiprop is in the police they don't do any work.
Steve Jones ran 2:07 working full time & Ron Hill 2:09
douglas burke wrote:
douglas burke wrote:
I don't personally know her, but Tirunesh Dibaba is a HIGH RANKING policewoman in Ethiopia, when I showed the article to an Ethiopian waitress,she told me to earn that rank in the police in Ethiopia, one must put in a lot of years AND hours, when I tod her T. Dibaba's age at the time, she said she must have been putting in at least 50-70 hours a week and be doing an exceptional job.
Also I don't personally know Jerome Drayton who is still the Canadian record holder 2:10.09 in the 1970's he was working a full time job 40-60 hours a week.
She had earned the police rank of Chief Superintendant in 2008, which would mean she was 23 years old, just an exceptional person to earn that rank at that age, shows she still would have been extremely successful even without running,
Are you kidding she earned that rank off her running ability.
ukathleticscoach wrote:
douglas burke wrote:
I don't personally know her, but Tirunesh Dibaba is a HIGH RANKING policewoman in Ethiopia, when I showed the article to an Ethiopian waitress,she told me to earn that rank in the police in Ethiopia, one must put in a lot of years AND hours, when I tod her T. Dibaba's age at the time, she said she must have been putting in at least 50-70 hours a week and be doing an exceptional job.
Also I don't personally know Jerome Drayton who is still the Canadian record holder 2:10.09 in the 1970's he was working a full time job 40-60 hours a week.
I trained with some Ethiopians who worked for the prison service.
As they were in the UK for several months I don't think they wee doing much in the way of prison duties.
Kiprop is in the police they don't do any work.
Steve Jones ran 2:07 working full time & Ron Hill 2:09
Jones might have been given time off to train by the RAF. Hill definetly was not. He did most of his training running to work and back and ran 2:09 back when that was among the best in the world. Hill also gained a PhD and had kids.
One more-- Joe LeMay who ran 2:13:55 and worked full time in IT.
Lisa barely works 20hrs per week. Constantly has colleagues pick up the slack.
Runningart2004 wrote:
It’s not hard to train while working a full-time job. 24 hours in a day. 8 hours sleep. 10 hours at work. 6 hours to run.
As far as time management goes running is by far the easiest sport to train for.
Alan
Exactly. I'm not even sure why this is an issue worth discussing. Running at an elite level requires no more than two hours a day. Most people watch a lot more tv than that.
Sure, if you're a pro you might spend more time doing prehab, drills, naps, and lifting weights, but that stuff only matters a tiny bit at the margin. And if you're willing to make it 3 hours per day dedicated to your sport, then you can do pretty much the exact same training as the full-time pros.
Thought about this wrote:
I am. Not fast, but I don’t know many fast people, because I am usually busy working and running slowly.
Decent post. I know people that take vacation days to train for slow marathons. Being able to do a 10 mile run in about an hour, or a 20 mile run in just over two is a big benefit. I have friend aiming for sub 5 marathon and a 10 miler is closer to two hours.
800 dude wrote:
Runningart2004 wrote:
It’s not hard to train while working a full-time job. 24 hours in a day. 8 hours sleep. 10 hours at work. 6 hours to run.
As far as time management goes running is by far the easiest sport to train for.
Alan
Exactly. I'm not even sure why this is an issue worth discussing. Running at an elite level requires no more than two hours a day. Most people watch a lot more tv than that.
Sure, if you're a pro you might spend more time doing prehab, drills, naps, and lifting weights, but that stuff only matters a tiny bit at the margin. And if you're willing to make it 3 hours per day dedicated to your sport, then you can do pretty much the exact same training as the full-time pros.
You clearly have no idea what it takes to run at an elite level. It is not a 2hr a day thing. Even from a strictly running perspective maybe 2hrs a day. Then you throw in stretching, drills, core, recovery, diet. All those things take time too plus you need more sleep to perform at high level. Work interferes with all of those and for many jobs work is more like a 10hr day than 8 hr day now.
It may be easy to train while working full time. But training to compete at a high level while working full time is a different animal and there's a reason most of the guys performing at high levels don't do it. Guys like Kawauchi are the exception, not the rule.