Fastest marathoner you know who has a full time non-running related job

I know of a guy who works for the local government with 2:08 marathon PB. Is it okay to name him?

Fastest guy I know with a legit FT 40 hour a week job ran a 2:28.

Much more impressive is a guy I know with a FT job who ran a 1:06:51 on a significantly hilly, not fast HM (certified course) in the middle of a Canadian winter, with ice patches in sections of the course. I ran the race as well.

Bob Kempainen. 2:08:47

Medical me wrote:

Bob Kempainen. 2:08:47

Faster than Rupp, with a FT job and no dubious TUEs.

I don't personally know her, but Tirunesh Dibaba is a HIGH RANKING policewoman in Ethiopia, when I showed the article to an Ethiopian waitress,she told me to earn that rank in the police in Ethiopia, one must put in a lot of years AND hours, when I tod her T. Dibaba's age at the time, she said she must have been putting in at least 50-70 hours a week and be doing an exceptional job.

Also I don't personally know Jerome Drayton who is still the Canadian record holder 2:10.09 in the 1970's he was working a full time job 40-60 hours a week.

so was Hilly, no sponsorship deals back then.

Annie Bersagel.

I know a guy who ran 3 or 4 marathons in the 2:17-2:19 range while working as a full time physical therapist. Also a lot of marathons in the 2:20-2:25 range.

Didn’t Rodgers win his first Boston while employed as a first time teacher?

I would assume any marathoner during the amateur days also had a job.

I wasn’t fast by any means but ran 2:32 while working 50 hours a week as a personal trainer/corporate wellness coordinator.

It’s not hard to train while working a full-time job. 24 hours in a day. 8 hours sleep. 10 hours at work. 6 hours to run.

As far as time management goes running is by far the easiest sport to train for.

Alan

lucky ducky wrote:

I know a guy who ran 3 or 4 marathons in the 2:17-2:19 range while working as a full time physical therapist. Also a lot of marathons in the 2:20-2:25 range.

PT isn't a desk job.. much easier to stay active in a role like that versus a job in finance, engineering, etc where you are sedentiary for 1/2 the day

douglas burke wrote:

I don't personally know her, but Tirunesh Dibaba is a HIGH RANKING policewoman in Ethiopia, when I showed the article to an Ethiopian waitress,she told me to earn that rank in the police in Ethiopia, one must put in a lot of years AND hours, when I tod her T. Dibaba's age at the time, she said she must have been putting in at least 50-70 hours a week and be doing an exceptional job.

Also I don't personally know Jerome Drayton who is still the Canadian record holder 2:10.09 in the 1970's he was working a full time job 40-60 hours a week.

She had earned the police rank of Chief Superintendant in 2008, which would mean she was 23 years old, just an exceptional person to earn that rank at that age, shows she still would have been extremely successful even without running,

I have a bit of an acquaintance with Ron Hill, I think that qualifies as knowing him. He did 2:09 and worked full time as a textile chemist.

This guy

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If you mean some I know, It's a 2:15 guy who is a teacher.

i dont know him but mike gratton 2;09 as a teacher

I personally know at least a dozen guys who have run in the 2:17-2:22 range while working full-time, non-running related jobs. It's not that hard if you were a mid to low-14:00 5k guy in college and continue to make running a priority. Having a full-time job AND kids? That's another story! The list of guys I know in that range drops to only two.

Probably Wesley Korir

Phil Coppess was a factory worker.

Among recent/current runners: Sergio Reyes (2:13:34), an engineer, and Michael Wardian (2:17:49), a shipping broker, have non-running jobs. Craig Leon (2:13:40) is an administrator in the U of Oregon Business Schools's Sports Marketing Program (but I don' t know if you would consider that non-running related).

I ran 2:4x