8 Min Pace death march: Who has the edge......????!!!!

oh please wrote:

Stephen King short story "The Long Walk"...go read it. (except they have to walk continuous 4mph).

The Long Walk is a novel you dolt LOLOLOLOLOL

This might be a place where a Galloway method might be a winner. Run at 7 and then walk for a while.

The one who has eaten/drank the most and has more body fat. That way when the race goes on for a day or two, they will the most calories and hydration saved up.

So are you saying the tractor stops after it terminates the first victim, so there's only one loser?

If so, the best strategy is to be the best at judo. Right at the start of the "race", the judo expert should throw the weakest runner under the tractor. Game over! Everyone else will thank him.

Um no. Slower runners will be running at a higher percentage of their max effort and faster runners less effort. So anyone can run at lower effort longer. This is logically silly. The best runner will win assuming their bodies can handle the metabolic and physical wear and tear. So it will be the fastest runner with those caveats.

I reckon I'd be pretty good at this.

BodyFatDave wrote:

I reckon I'd be pretty good at this.

One runner should push all his or her teammates into the machine simultaneously, so it has a higher likelihood of it breaking down.

This is easy as you just have to keep going until the tractor runs out of fuel. Let's say the tractor has a 50 litre capacity and burns somewhere between 5 and 10 litres an hour (probably in the middle?) so you need to run 7:59s for between 5 and 10 hours. 8 min miles is 8:15 100km pace which is easy. Good way to remove slow runners from the world and each year the tractor gets 10s per mile quicker so we are raising the bar as we go.

I’ve got experience on this one:

First figure out your optimal aerobic pace, if it’s 7:30s don’t run faster than that although the rest at a slower pace might be appealing.

You can break the run into long intervals like the OP said, but aside from the runner who’s in the best aerobic shape - the other factors that will come into play are stride efficiency (not necessarily the lightest runner, but physics helps) and if re-fueling is allowed.

Look at 100km race paces to get an idea of sustained pace and re-fueling tactics.

The guy with the best head on his shoulders will win every time.

gahuga wrote:

Why even jog at all? "Huh. A tractor moving toward me in a straight line at 7.5 miles per hour. Guess I'll just walk casually in a line perpendicular to the path of the tractor until I've gone further than the width thereof, thus saving myself. It's getting closer, but it's still only going 7.5 miles per hour. I guess I still have time to sip this lemonade, adjust my glasses and tweet about my experience. Man, this is a weird scenario, though. What on earth did I do to end up in this situation? Well, anyway, that tractor's getting pretty close now so I guess I better take this short but lifesaving walk in a perpendicular direction. Hey, what's up with all those guys jogging in front of it?"

We all went to the Prometheus School of Running Away from Things in this scenario.

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oh please wrote:

Stephen King short story "The Long Walk"...go read it. (except they have to walk continuous 4mph).

I read this when I was a kid, just went back and skimmed it. Thing that sticks out to me is that 4mph is 15min/mile. Have you ever walked at 15min/mile? It ain't easy. King wants us to believe these guys walked 100+miles with no rest at 15min/mile. Total BS. The long walk would have been over in 20miles for a bunch of untrained punk kids.

Logicwatson wrote:

Um no. Slower runners will be running at a higher percentage of their max effort and faster runners less effort. So anyone can run at lower effort longer. This is logically silly. The best runner will win assuming their bodies can handle the metabolic and physical wear and tear. So it will be the fastest runner with those caveats.

U logically re-tarded

Logicwatson wrote:

Um no. Slower runners will be running at a higher percentage of their max effort and faster runners less effort. So anyone can run at lower effort longer. This is logically silly. The best runner will win assuming their bodies can handle the metabolic and physical wear and tear. So it will be the fastest runner with those caveats.

With your "logic"Bolt would have the edge against Farrah in the marathon because he's running at a lower percentage of his max effort.

Are u even a runner?

The whole point of he thread is to discuss what type of runner will handle the physical and metabolic wear and tear.

Face palm wrote:

Logicwatson wrote:

Um no. Slower runners will be running at a higher percentage of their max effort and faster runners less effort. So anyone can run at lower effort longer. This is logically silly. The best runner will win assuming their bodies can handle the metabolic and physical wear and tear. So it will be the fastest runner with those caveats.

With your "logic"Bolt would have the edge against Farrah in the marathon because he's running at a lower percentage of his max effort.

Are u even a runner?

The whole point of he thread is to discuss what type of runner will handle the physical and metabolic wear and tear.

Exactly, I am pretty far down on my team 5k time wise (18:4x), but I would say I can run much farther at 8 min pace than most of my team, I've run a marathon and the farthest any of the others have run is 16 miles for 4-5 of them.

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MPG wrote:

This is easy as you just have to keep going until the tractor runs out of fuel. Let's say the tractor has a 50 litre capacity and burns somewhere between 5 and 10 litres an hour (probably in the middle?) so you need to run 7:59s for between 5 and 10 hours. 8 min miles is 8:15 100km pace which is easy. Good way to remove slow runners from the world and each year the tractor gets 10s per mile quicker so we are raising the bar as we go.

No need to run 7:59 continuously. Just need to do it once to get 1 sec ahead of tractor man, and the all you need to do will be a bunch of 8 min miles

Spectrum?

This has always been one of my favorite letsrun posts