In the NFL, it takes bravery to be respectful to our country

Big Red wrote:

You show respect for your country by standing up for it's values, and for justice for all, as Colin Kaepernick has done.

Colin Kaepernick does not respect our country. He told us so, there's no debate about it. He also believes cops are pigs. If you love America and respect the work our police do then you oppose his "movement."

Patriotism is a tool used by money-grubbing power elites to attact cannon fodder.

It's worked out pretty good for the rich and powerfull for hundreds if not thousands of years.

Kaepernick is a failed QB who hooked up with a Muslim brotherhood loving gf. He was radicalized from his "Christian" upbringing and began sporting Che Guerva shirts and pig socks mocking the police. I love to see Libs who mention KKK and white supremacists/Nazis (which 99% of people condemn), but fail to mention the over 100 million people killed because of failed socialism and communism throughout modern history. We all hate that the National Socialists in Germany killed 6 million Jews and millions of others. We also hate when countries like Venezuela and North Korea starve their citizens and they're forced to eat pets and zoo animals to survive. The protest is just another fad. Some sort of "morality" to cling to. Forget that less than 1% make it to the NFL and become millionaires, forget about black on black crime, forget that more whites are killed by cops than blacks, forget that 300k black babies are killed by Planned Parenthood every year. Forget reality. Just try to look cool without achieving anything. You know, like actually fixing the black community. Or maybe serving in the military for some perspective and keeping the country safe...but it's easier for the well off to play victims. It will backfire on them. Especially since the Democratic party is imploding with zero direction and no platform, but anger and hatred for anyone who opposes or questions their policies. Gotta go through the flames before you can get to the other side.

Served well wrote:

Alejandro likely doesn't recognize peer pressure. He served and could care less what a bunch of snigglettes protest.

Why are you contradicting yourself?

Pub-lack schools to blame

I mean, Pub-lick screws to blame

I mean Black Lives Matters has slaughtered 14 Police in cold blooded assassination style killings in the last 22 months.

Are you children in Publick screws?

In this country the flag worship and national anthem singing is exaggerated. At international events, I can understand it ,,,, but every little game has all these flag waving and singing... It is silly. This takes place only in the USA. Just stop it already.

kaepernick hates usa wrote:

Big Red wrote:

You show respect for your country by standing up for it's values, and for justice for all, as Colin Kaepernick has done.

Colin Kaepernick does not respect our country. He told us so, there's no debate about it. He also believes cops are pigs. If you love America and respect the work our police do then you oppose his "movement."

Are you suggesting that it's only possible to love America if you love every aspect of America? That sounds more like "obedience" than "respect", to me.

"Serving the country" sadly means "got tricked into the military for unnecessary purpose, or false flag event". The "serving" these people are doing is totally useless. Cut away 2/3's of the military and we would still have the most powerful military force in the world. Stay home, protect our borders is enough, we don't need 200 military bases all over the world. But of course...., I'm sure these people that are "serving", think they are doing something really important.

Again...let's start using a little !@#$% common sense and do the easiest thing to end the ridiculous debate. Stop. Playing. The. National. Anthem. Before. The. Freaking. Games....PERIOD!!!

Unless it's an international competition (e.g. Olympics) where the athletes literally are representing the USA, there is no freaking reason why the National Anthem needs to be played before a sporting event. None. Zero. Nada. Donuts. It's not in the Constitution. It's not a law. It's not a tradition that can't be easily and prudently broken.

These are freaking GAMES, people. They are NOT organized gatherings intended to display patriotism!

And let's face it; half the hill-jacks who are ripping the players for kneeling probably aren't standing at attention for the Anthem anyway. They're probably standing in the beer line or shaking it at the urinal.

Pay Attention wrote:

Again...let's start using a little !@#$% common sense and do the easiest thing to end the ridiculous debate. Stop. Playing. The. National. Anthem. Before. The. Freaking. Games....PERIOD!!!

Unless it's an international competition (e.g. Olympics) where the athletes literally are representing the USA, there is no freaking reason why the National Anthem needs to be played before a sporting event. None. Zero. Nada. Donuts. It's not in the Constitution. It's not a law. It's not a tradition that can't be easily and prudently broken.

These are freaking GAMES, people. They are NOT organized gatherings intended to display patriotism!

And let's face it; half the hill-jacks who are ripping the players for kneeling probably aren't standing at attention for the Anthem anyway. They're probably standing in the beer line or shaking it at the urinal.

This ^

To all the folks on here and elsewhere who want to the players to just STFU and keep politics out of sports - putting the national anthem before ball games is what put politics into sports in the first place.

We don't rise for the national anthem before every movie we go see, or every play, or opera, or television show, or . . .

Stop elevating sports as some sort of nationalistic ritual (outside of the Olympics where it clearly is). And stop denigrating the national anthem by lowering it to the level of the Sacramento Kings (fill in your favorite pathetic professional sports organization here).

I agree with Trump, but I think he was out of line to make the comments as sitting POTUS. Heck, I agree with much of what he says, but think he needs to just STFU and lead on issues as a unifier and not a divider like his predecessor. I thought we would be past that clown by now, but we merely replaced him with another guy who will not shut up and be a unifier.

rabble rabble rabble wrote:

I'm not buying it. I just don't think kneeling during the national anthem is really disrespectful to the flag or the country. As a symbol, kneeling is an even more respectful gesture than standing. Nobody is burning the flag or doing something obnoxious and disrupting during the national anthem, now that would be disrespectful.

I have a suspicion that those most offended by the kneeling are exaggerating the disrespectfulness of this mainly because they disagree with the issue the players are trying to get people to talk about. If they were protesting for a conservative issue I don't think you'd hear many people complaining.

I suspect that many supporting him would not support him if he were protesting Obama.

agree mostly

Protest what about Obama? You suspect that those supporting his cause might not support other causes that he might kneel for?

Pay Attention wrote:

Again...let's start using a little !@#$% common sense and do the easiest thing to end the ridiculous debate. Stop. Playing. The. National. Anthem. Before. The. Freaking. Games....PERIOD!!!

Unless it's an international competition (e.g. Olympics) where the athletes literally are representing the USA, there is no freaking reason why the National Anthem needs to be played before a sporting event. None. Zero. Nada. Donuts. It's not in the Constitution. It's not a law. It's not a tradition that can't be easily and prudently broken.

These are freaking GAMES, people. They are NOT organized gatherings intended to display patriotism!

And let's face it; half the hill-jacks who are ripping the players for kneeling probably aren't standing at attention for the Anthem anyway. They're probably standing in the beer line or shaking it at the urinal.

Aren't they protesting to bring awareness to police mistreatment of blacks? Wouldn't they just find another way to protest if they no longer played the anthem, and people would still be arguing about it and telling them just to play games?

Maybe, maybe not. Certainly athletes have found other ways to protect police mistreatment (see NBA players and warm-up shirts). The thing is, playing the National Anthem is inherently a political act. It inherently forces people to make a political statement by either standing for the anthem or not standing for the anthem. Both of those are political, so eliminating that eliminates a flashpoint.

lederhosen wrote:

Aren't they protesting to bring awareness to police mistreatment of blacks? Wouldn't they just find another way to protest if they no longer played the anthem, and people would still be arguing about it and telling them just to play games?

Mr. Obvious wrote:

Maybe, maybe not. Certainly athletes have found other ways to protect police mistreatment (see NBA players and warm-up shirts).

The thing is, playing the National Anthem is inherently a political act. It inherently forces people to make a political statement by either standing for the anthem or not standing for the anthem. Both of those are political, so eliminating that eliminates a flashpoint.

lederhosen wrote:

Aren't they protesting to bring awareness to police mistreatment of blacks? Wouldn't they just find another way to protest if they no longer played the anthem, and people would still be arguing about it and telling them just to play games?

Fair enough - have at it then. I really don't give a damn if people stand or sit or sleep for pregame anthems and am tired of hearing people fight about it.

Job opening POTUS:

Unifiers need not apply.

If we didn't sing the national anthem before Football games, how would Kaepernick and crew show their disrespect? What would they do, wear pig socks or something? Oh wait.....