Women's 10 Mile Cancelled Due to 73° Start Time Temp

7:30 am start in Orlando with 77/75.

manatee style wrote:

Smoove wrote:

Another Florida guy chiming in: I'd pay $100 for those race conditions. Last Saturday it was 77 degrees/98% humidity/75 dew point for our 5k, and that was pretty standard stuff around here.

As one poster pointed out, the Minnesotans may not be as well prepared for these conditions as southerners, but it still seems overly cautious.

& tell 'em what TIME that start was; I don't know what race it was but in Tampa / St Pete it'd be 8 or earlier.

cancelling a 73 degree race is ludicrous and everyone involved with that decision should be excoriated.

Usually for races they worry about the WBGT:

http://www.weather.gov/tsa/wbgt

OP: dew point (temperature) is in degrees, not percentage.

78 degree start, Dewpoint of 75 at 4am here for the start of the Tamarindo Marathon (not 5K) this past Saturday. Blazing sunny finish for the less competitive runners 4 and 5 hours later. We all have our bragging conditions we've raced in. But we are talking highly unusual weather for Twin Cities at this time of year. Dewpoint here AVERAGES 75 (look it up) so no big outlier like in Mn.

Just checked forecast. High of 88 on race day Sunday while later in the week the forecast is for a HIGH of 58.

.....and this just in from the race director - Volunteers are busy swapping out the gloves that were in the swag bags for sunscreen! Women only races always have a nice touch to them.

slowerthanuouttabe wrote:

Usually for races they worry about the WBGT:

http://www.weather.gov/tsa/wbgt

OP: dew point (temperature) is in degrees, not percentage.

Thanks for the correction on dew point, I copied the explanation directly from the race website.

That's f'ing ridiculous. This morning was also the Surly Trail Loppet with people doing trail races of half-marathon, 13.1K, and 5K...people were absolutely soaked right at the start, but I don't think anyone complained. There would have been riots if any of the distances had been cancelled.

That might also explain why not a single person I knew had even planned on doing the TCM race. Seriously disappointing move by a previously smart organization. How on earth does it make sense to be able to do a 10k, but not a 10 miler?

Are we talking Celsius here or something?

Agreed. I live northern Michigan where it was 90 degrees today and a 100 mile bike race AND 100 mile run took place. The weather said it actually "feels like 95" and there were no cancellations. To cancel that far in advance is ridiculous. Besides, the weather is crazy here in the Midwest. I lived in mpls for 7 years and it could be 80 one moment and 30 the next. Seems ridiculous. I'd be pissed if I paid to do that.

I think its less about the temperature and more about the dewpoint/humidity. I don't think they would cancel it just for 73 deg, but with a dewpoint of 70 or above, that will make it feel much worse.

Regarding Chicago 2007 - In 2007, the injuries were more serious. “More than 50 runners were taken to Northwestern Memorial Hospital where they arrived unconscious, incoherent or unable to give their names,” Dr. Marty Lucenti told a Tribune reporter at the time. “Most of these people were pushing their bodies to the absolute max.” Oct. 7, 2007, was a scorcher. At the race’s 8 a.m. start, the temperature was 73, the humidity 93 percent. It felt like 90 degrees when the marathon’s director left his hotel. Shortly it was clear that not enough ambulances were on standby, and the Chicago Fire Department had to request suburban first responders. As the first racers crossed the finish line — the men’s competition was a photo finish — it was clear that a disaster was in the making. At the urging of fire officials, the marathon was suspended at 11:30 a.m. The remaining runners were intercepted at the halfway mark, and urged to take shelter in nearby air-conditioned buildings. Officially, it was a record 88 degrees. Of the 45,000 runners signed up for the race, only 36,000 started. More than 300 who started left in ambulances. One of them, a police officer from Michigan, died before reaching a hospital.

TCM also puts on the Twin Cities Marathon next Sunday along with the 10 miler which I've run and found the organization to be top notch so it seems like they know what they're doing. It isn't a Team Ortho event that always seems to have trouble. I'm sure there is a lot more to it. Idk it looked like they were going to have some more well travelled road closures so maybe not wanting people out that much longer or not having the extra water and medical personnel. Who knows.

Ironic a 10 miler got cancelled the hardest marathon (pikes)in the world got to 87 this year and still didn't get cancelled, lol.

BK10 wrote:

Ironic a 10 miler got cancelled the hardest marathon (pikes)in the world got to 87 this year and still didn't get cancelled, lol.

And the dewpoint was 39!! I would kill to have a race in that weather. Tho the high was 86 at one point that day, the temps were also in the 40's.

It was probs a good call. I raced Griak today and when I did my shakeout at 5:30 am it was already muggy/warm and only got hotter throughout the day. The men's D1 race had 1/6th of the field drop out and they ran at 10:20am.

Then why have a 10K race still going on? If people are going to run hard enough to have problems in a 10 Miler, they are going to have issues in a 10K.

blah ha ha ha wrote:

turnoinferno wrote:

Due to expected "extreme" heat and humidity on race day, the 10 Mile race at Sunday morning’s Women Run The Cities event has been cancelled. Weather conditions are expected to be 73 degrees at 8 a.m. with a dew point of 67% and relative humidity of 87% on race morning.

The 5K and 10K races are still scheduled at their original times, but participants are urged to slow their pace and use extreme caution, if they choose to participate.

https://www.tcmevents.org/node/113

Proper precaution or snowflakes winning?

They should change the name of the race.

Hey human females.

We decided that you are too weak and stupid.

We decided to not let you even run the race.

We decided to take your MONEY instead.

Have a nice day morons.

Agreed. It looks like the organizers were looking for an excuse to cancel the race. I mean people train through the summers for a fall race, most of them from the Midwest region. So the humidity argument is bogus. It seems the organizers were also hoping, cynically, for jerks to blame imaginary 'snowflakes' for the cancellation despite zero evidence that any actual runners called for this action.

I live here and seems pretty stupid. It is hot. Go slower, drink water, and stop if you get hot.

On the flip side. We've merrily gone on with races at 0F or 33f and rainy where the rest of the country wimps out from the cold.

alabama runner wrote:

Northerner snowflakes can't handle the heat. I just ran a 5k in 88deg weather, 96deg heat index. It sucked, but no one was clanoring to cancel. I think that the cancellation was a bit excessive, especially considering road races have water stops usually.

Nonsense. Last year I ran a 10 miler in DC on the hottest day of the year. 100% humidity and 95° at 8am. Suck it.