Best Running Youtuber getting SHUT DOWN by NCAA

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  • Warning: All I Do Is Win
    2 years ago 09/20/2017 9:39pm CDT
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    We've seen this a couple times this year. The punter who had to leave his football team to continue his YouTube career.

    Ryan Trajan on the other hand, started a company and has been growing pretty rapidly, making crazy high quality videos of training and Races for years. But now that he started his running career at Texas A&M, he cannot run if he keep his business OR YouTube channel going.
    https://youtu.be/CDoU9VJ10Gg

    When will the NCAA keep their money Grubbing hands off young entrepreneurs that are doing Far more for the sports they promote than the NCAA?
  • Pappy
    2 years ago 09/20/2017 9:59pm CDT
    re: Warning: All I Do Is Win
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    I actually agree with the NCAA. They need to stop it for one reason. It could cause a recruiting advantage for some schools beyond belief. Could you imagine how much more Cam Newton could of gotten by having a YouTube company? All he'd have to do is sell part of it to the highest bidder/booster from one of the major schools.
    I may have misunderstood but it sounds like Ryan can keep posting running videos as long as he or Texas A&M are not in them. That is doable even if it is inconveinent.
  • Warning: All I Do Is WIn
    2 years ago 09/20/2017 10:27pm CDT
    re: Pappy
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    Pappy wrote:
    ...Ryan can keep posting running videos as long as he or Texas A&M are not in them

    Unfortunately, that isn't the case, from what happened with the Punter. The issue is that He is using his IMAGE and LIKENESS (which is his face and body as a runner) to make content and promote it. In other words, it is his talent that is making him successful. Which is true to an extent, but is utterly ridiculous when you think about what is best for the sport.

    While I agree with you on the recruiting front, There's more to it than that in my eyes.

    Does the governing body of the NFL stop players from having their own businesses? No. Why? Because it's good for business. The problem with the NCAA is they want all the money for themselves. But if they let this kid have his business, run his channel, he brings publicity to the NCAA they wouldn't have had before. If we want the sport to become more popular, what he is doing is a good thing. I always wondered why there weren't quality, REAL training videos out there from colleges besides Flotrack and the such.
  • toomanyspikes
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    2 years ago 09/21/2017 5:41am CDT
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    I've followed this guy for a while now and just saw this video. Utterly ridiculous. I understand that if you're making bank because you're promoting yourself as an NCAA athlete to be marketed and sponsored and stuff, there's a clear line where stuff like that shouldn't happen. But throughout all his videos, he just throws in a little "Hey check out Neptune bottle link in the description". And knowing the size of the running community, let alone the (relatively) small amount of people following him, he's not gonna be drawing in big bucks just by selling a couple hundred water bottles. If anything he can use that for college tuition.

    If I wasn't going to get a Neptune bottle before, I definitely am now.
  • Watch the video
    2 years ago 09/21/2017 6:16am CDT
    re: Warning: All I Do Is Win
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    Everyone's points may be true, but that's not the question here.

    It has nothing about his channel being popular. The problem is that he intertwines it with his business that he's owned since HS. Its that he has used his image/likeness to promote a business.

    It's an unfortunate situation because it is his business its not like someone else is paying him to do it.
  • the kobe of being bad
    2 years ago 09/21/2017 6:24am CDT
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    all I am hearing is that the athlete special is still up
  • Coerced
    2 years ago 09/21/2017 7:47am CDT
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    the kobe of being bad wrote:

    all I am hearing is that the athlete special is still up

    +1

    Brown is actually entertaining and outgoing. Everyone else trying to copy his personality (Trahan, that Soren kid who advertises himself here, and some Oregon freshman) makes me cringe.
  • What about the others??
    2 years ago 09/21/2017 9:00am CDT
    re: Warning: All I Do Is Win
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    So what about all of the other YouTubers who are runners in the NCAA?

    Soren Knudson
    The Athlete Special
    I've seen some girl who goes to Oregon

    Do all of these vloggers have to cancel their channels now too?

    NCAA profits off of removing freedom of speech from their athletes.
  • Reptilians
    2 years ago 09/21/2017 10:16am CDT
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    What about the others?? wrote:

    So what about all of the other YouTubers who are runners in the NCAA?

    Soren Knudson
    The Athlete Special
    I've seen some girl who goes to Oregon

    Do all of these vloggers have to cancel their channels now too?

    NCAA profits off of removing freedom of speech from their athletes.

    As far as I am aware, any youtube channel is fine as long as 1. The person has not monetized their videos, and 2. They are not promoting a brand or product while simultaneously using their image as an NCAA athlete.
    These other accounts do not do those things, and Trahan can keep his and continue to post all about his NCAA experience as long as he isn't using it in conjunction with Neptune.
  • butt...
    2 years ago 09/21/2017 4:39pm CDT
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    Watch the video wrote:
    It has nothing about his channel being popular. The problem is that he intertwines it with his business that he's owned since HS. Its that he has used his image/likeness to promote a business.

    It's an unfortunate situation because it is his business its not like someone else is paying him to do it.

    So any kid that starts a business can't run in the NCAA? Like this kid? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HObB0LnNpoI

    That's insane. IF so, America is sucking it up right now.
    All because one corporation (NCAA) has too much power.

    But to your first point, other youtubers have been shut down just for having the channel
  • tard alert
    2 years ago 09/21/2017 4:53pm CDT
    re: Pappy
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    Pappy wrote:

    Could you imagine how much more Cam Newton could of gotten by having a YouTube company? .

    Could OF gotten?

    Christ on a fvcking bike
  • Easy Choice
    2 years ago 09/21/2017 4:59pm CDT
    re: Warning: All I Do Is Win
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    It's a crap situation but an easy choice in my opinion. Get rid of the little bottle company and build the social media, so when he graduates in 4 years he's got a huge amount of influence that he can sell off to advertisers. A strong social media presence will make signing for a pro team a million times easier should he so choose. If he's really business driven, he'll realise that a little money now is nice, a lot of money in the future is better!
    Signed
    Social Media Savvy Post-Millenial
  • Warning: All I Do Is Win
    2 years ago 09/22/2017 1:06am CDT
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    On ESPN: http://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/20779408/ncaa-puts-youtube-aims-texas-aggies-runner-ryan-trahan-check
    http://es.pn/2jQh3Yr
  • European,.-,.
    2 years ago 09/22/2017 1:19am CDT
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    Why do they even have the power to interfere with his private life?

    Plus: Discouraging young people from building something has absolutely DEVASTATING effects on Society, just sayin'
  • DONOTMONETIZE
    2 years ago 09/22/2017 1:26am CDT
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    Easy, do not monentize FFS.

    If you need some bucks go and work at the mill like the Men of Oregon did...can't stand people that make money on youutbe..
  • been around ya' know
    2 years ago 09/22/2017 1:27am CDT
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    The NCAA exploits and gets rich off of athletes . . . that is all.
  • Not so easy
    2 years ago 09/22/2017 1:32am CDT
    re: Easy Choice
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    Easy Choice wrote:

    It's a crap situation but an easy choice in my opinion. Get rid of the little bottle company and build the social media, so when he graduates in 4 years he's got a huge amount of influence that he can sell off to advertisers. A strong social media presence will make signing for a pro team a million times easier should he so choose. If he's really business driven, he'll realise that a little money now is nice, a lot of money in the future is better!
    Signed
    Social Media Savvy Post-Millenial

    Reality is that most YouTubers are basement dwellers living off chips and soda despite regularly getting views of a few dozen thousand.

    He would have to be hitting millions of viewers weekly to attract the sort of advertisement needed to make any decent cash.

    As we know, running just ain't that popular so highly unlikely he'll ever achieve this.
  • Easy Choice
    2 years ago 09/22/2017 3:26am CDT
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    You definitely make a fair point in regards to YouTube salaries, however he's a good looking guy who has quite a knack for actual content creation. I see him quite easily transitioning into more daily vlogging type content which has been a staple of YouTube for a while, and which, unlike running content, actually makes a few $$$

    Moreover, social influence goes beyond YouTube. Your average motivational hobbyjogger can make a decent wage off their 10k instagram followers plugging fitness products. Ryan's currently on 13k off 5 months of content and has 4 years to grow: once you hit that first 5k or so on instagram, you start to get your content featured on people's discover page and growth goes further and further through the roof, so if he keeps working on it consistently, I don't see a reason why he doesn't hit 100k followers by the time he graduates, in which he'll be a marketers wet dream.

    Mind you this should all be supplementary income. As far as I know he's majoring in Economics so it's not like he'll be completely short of a job once college is over!

    Essentially, what I'm trying to argue is that the doors that will open as a result of growing his social media over time are far more plentiful than the amount that will open as a result of selling bottles-especially since he won't be able to market them properly!
  • señor chelimo americano
    2 years ago 09/22/2017 3:54am CDT
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    hey ryan 'grats to you and all your success. i hope if you're reading this thread you can come to some understanding about why the rules are the rules. best of luck.
  • 800 dude
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    2 years ago 09/22/2017 5:40am CDT
    re: señor chelimo americano
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    The problem is that the NCAA is the biggest criminal antitrust conspiracy in history. In no other context could a bunch of competitors in a lucrative market get together and make a bunch of rules about how they shouldn't pay their labor source.