Gabe G. did not respond to chemo

Um, why wouldn't Big Pharma just charge people to stop using toxic treatments?

Here is the doctor hating thread.

http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=1241566

Cancer sucks wrote:

next please wrote:

show us evidence that alternative medicine is more effective. not anecdotal stories. actual evidence. all you're doing is repeating cases where chemo fails and generalizing that to all cases. do you understand why this is illogical? no medical professional believes chemo is perfect, but its often the best we can do when radiotherapy or surgery aren't options.

You didn't read the article. It had a study embedded and despite whatever study is posted, you will disbelieve it because you have closed mind.

http://www.road-to-health.com/am/publish/article_121.shtml

uhhh there was no controlled study with a comparison to chemo...

lol this is the bs you fell for. youre a child

https://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Cancer/laetrile.html

Cancer sucks wrote:

next please wrote:

show us evidence that alternative medicine is more effective. not anecdotal stories. actual evidence. all you're doing is repeating cases where chemo fails and generalizing that to all cases. do you understand why this is illogical? no medical professional believes chemo is perfect, but its often the best we can do when radiotherapy or surgery aren't options.

I remember that there was a thread a few years ago about people hating hating MD's in general. It is amusing that these same people certainly trust their oncologists implicitly when conventional chemo is prescribed. Hypocrites.

its almost like multiple people use this forum with different opinions

uhhh i have a hard time understanding simple things

94 20 wrote:

Also, our only agenda is to help. If I was dying of cancer, I would want to know about literlally all of the treatment options, and then make my own decisions. Trust (your doctor) but verify. Then make your own decision.

Wishing all the best to Gabe and everybody else suffering from cancer and going through chemo etc.

+2

As someone who used to work in Oncology many years ago, do your homework on various option treatments, get referrals and trust the practitioners to do their job. Cancer is not a cut and dry disease, it is very complicated. I think if people go to counseling first (a counselor who specializes in cancer patients) before they seek out tx options that might help the person to think more clearly in making the right choices for them.

Let's help our fellow colleagues, friends, family or community members who have cancer by providing empathy and emotional support instead of attacking who they choose for care or treatment. Ultimately, it's their choice.

To mr. big pharma wrote:

By definition, healthy holistic living is more effective then toxic medical treatments that constantly fail, because it is healthy, not toxic, and thereby is successful.

Thus here is the evidence that healthy holistic living is better:

1) healthy;

2) not toxic;

3) not deadly;

4) successful.

This is why conventional medicine fails and is deadly:

1) unhealthy;

2) toxic;

3) deadly;

4) unsuccessful.

What about people who follow healthy holistic living and still get sick? Which a lot of them still do.

the fact that you think big pharma funds basic cancer research is all the evidence we need that you have no idea what you're talking about

same price wrote:

What about people who follow healthy holistic living and still get sick? Which a lot of them still do.

I've been holistic for the last 43 years (in my 70's now) and rarely if ever get sick, which to me is usually just allergies from pollen. I rinse out my sinuses and am fine. Whatever happens, I take care of it myself, and I never ever go to doctors. In my early life, doctors told me I had cancer and a 50 percent chance to live for five years. I fortunately found their reasoning to be quite questionable as otherwise I'd likely have been dead long ago from the treatments they insisted that I get. Instead of that, I left without doing any of those things, haven't been do a doctor since then, and have been fine ever since. Personally I'd rather my immune system be able to handle everyday challenges and keep getting stronger, than to have it destroyed and be dead.

By the way I meant to add this but forgot. Those same doctors said that if I didn't do what they said, that I'd be dead in a month. Well I didn't do what they said. I left and did what I felt was the best and survived. They were prepared to murder me and I'm sure they knew better.

You must be comfortable with the fact that oncologists receive kickbacks from big pharma for prescribing chemo.

http://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/is-your-doctor-getting-drug-kickbacks/

Only a child would fall for this without reading the whole story of laetrile.Dr. Kanemastsu Sugiura was a highly respected researcher at Sloan Kettering who led the way in laetrile research. Fellow scientist leaked their results after the board of Sloan Kettering would not release the treatment because it was not patentable. http://www.wnyc.org/story/why-potentially-promising-experimental-cancer-therapy-was-kept-secret-and-how-it-was-exposed/

next please wrote:

lol this is the bs you fell for. youre a child

https://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Cancer/laetrile.html

what's to lose wrote:

Only a child would fall for this without reading the whole story of laetrile.

Dr. Kanemastsu Sugiura was a highly respected researcher at Sloan Kettering who led the way in laetrile research. Fellow scientist leaked their results after the board of Sloan Kettering would not release the treatment because it was not patentable.

http://www.wnyc.org/story/why-potentially-promising-experimental-cancer-therapy-was-kept-secret-and-how-it-was-exposed/

next please wrote:

lol this is the bs you fell for. youre a child

https://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Cancer/laetrile.html

^This. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding!!!!!! I hope that Gabe reads this thread and I wish her well on pivoting to new cancer fighting methods. I'm also glad that there are others out there who are not enslaved to the chemo only, radiation only and/or surgery only way when it comes to cancer treatment. I lost my father, my uncles and one aunt to this disease, so yes, I will continue to be vocal in the future. For those of you that I rubbed the the wrong way. Too fukkn bad. Deal with it.

So basically your family didn't listen to you and you're taking it out on anonymous people?

Holistic person experience wrote:

By the way I meant to add this but forgot. Those same doctors said that if I didn't do what they said, that I'd be dead in a month. Well I didn't do what they said. I left and did what I felt was the best and survived. They were prepared to murder me and I'm sure they knew better.

What kind of cancer were you misdiagnosed with?

amirite? wrote:

So basically your family didn't listen to you and you're taking it out on anonymous people?

Don't put your life in the hands of some moron like this.

I routinely misdiagnose people and prescribe dangerous drugs to them.

Then I laugh when they die.

Cancer sucks wrote:

You must be comfortable with the fact that oncologists receive kickbacks from big pharma for prescribing chemo.

http://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/is-your-doctor-getting-drug-kickbacks/

Who would have thought. Many doctors are nothing more than foot soldiers for pharmaceutical industry.